Yes. I appreciate that. I think that one of the things and one of the areas that we will really have to focus on, although it is not directly in this department but it certainly ties in to what the Minister has just indicated, is that we need to build strong capacity, especially as it relates to trades. The opportunity to promote and attract individuals to enter into the apprenticeship programs would be something that we should be promoting strongly and working interdepartmentally to achieve. I just wanted to note that for the record. I have no further questions in this activity. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Next, we have Mr. McNeely.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I know in the past year, during our capital session here, we had talked about carry-overs, carry-overs. From past experience there, it has always been the wishes of the private sector to have multi- or carry-over contracts. Now, in this position, I see how we can share the wishes of the private sector and accommodate the carry-over budget to allow the project to go through. Now, it is a matter of the department to design and even give some thought to sectional approaches to the project.

Given that experience recently, I have shared that with the leadership in Tulita, for example, to say to them to look at piecemealing the construction of the Bear River Bridge. This way, it is maximizing on employment training as well as commerce opportunities as well as seeing the project going through and providing multiple years of benefits to the remote community in this case. I am quite satisfied with the discussions we have had in the past and the whole idea that it is not being ruled out on carry-overs.

Carry-overs are actually a good thing. In some parts of our Territory, that is all you are allowed to do is seasonal access, which means carrying over to the next season. In our case, in the Sahtu, in some cases, in some projects there, you are only accessible for the winter months, and the spring thaw comes in. Normally, you know, it revolves around the winter oats season, which usually starts deteriorating to the latter part of March. Avenues to prolong that are looked at, nighttime travel. Those are all factors that I have come to learn in this line of work here that supports the project, as well as employment, as well as prolonging benefits. I share that with the colleagues here today. Thank you

Thank you. Does the Minister care to respond?

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In my previous comments about the other ones to the other Member, as well, when you start talking about Canyon Creek as a good example of doing a small section instead of doing the entirety of the road, it will capitalize on local employment, local businesses, and training opportunities. We will continue to look at that. When you look at our plan going forward, around the Mackenzie Valley Highway, the Mount Gaudet section is clearly going to be another one of those sections that the people in the Deh Cho are going to be able to capitalize on as an opportunity, very similar to what happened in the Sahtu.

We continue to work with the community of Tulita, as I said, with the Bear River Bridge to look at whether there are any possibilities of breaking out some stuff out of that project, where some local people can capitalize on the opportunity that is there. We will continue to look at those things.

Contractors, obviously, have a role to play in carryovers, as well. They are challenged, as well, around capacity issues and staffing, and that is why we have the Department of Education working on what they do around skills training and the Skills 4 Success document moving forward. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Further, Mr. McNeely? Nothing further from Mr. McNeely. Next, Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in our review of the business plan in this section, we have identified the Infrastructure staff. It appears as though a lot of the Infrastructure staff are getting close to retirement.

I was wondering if I could ask the Minister what the plan is to try to retain the corporate knowledge as they move forward, if there is a large amount of senior people retiring in the next five years. What is the plan? What is the human resource plan to retain corporate knowledge in this department? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Deputy Minister Guy.

Thank you, Deputy Minister Guy. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks for that response. On page 240, Mr. Chair, I want to just ask some questions around the local community roads. Community access roads, generally, I think, are used for all seasons, to maybe create an all-season road to various traditional areas that individuals would wish to access. I have a question for the Minister: could this money be used for winter roads? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Schumann.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, this money can be used for winter roads, as long as it is outside of their community. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister Schumann. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, just in relation to the same area, I want to ask the Minister if they have a capital budget access road, which is a larger amount and may have a different objective. I know that this is not the capital. I clearly understand that. I am wondering if there is a capital program, however.

Mr. Chairman, an example that I will go to is that, when they were building the Inuvik to Tuktoyaktuk Highway, they first built a 17-kilometre access road along the right-of-way. I am wondering, Mr. Chairman, where that type of money sits. Where does that access money sit, in which area? Is it here, or is it somewhere else? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Schumann.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That would be a capital plan, so that would have to be a capital appropriation project. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister Schumann. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you. I think the Minister said capital appropriation. I said that I understood that, but there something in the capital called access road. I am wondering if there is a set amount in that budget all of the time that is similar to this, but maybe has a different objective. I am wondering if there is money there that should essentially have no impact on this budget. I am not sure I am making myself very clear. Maybe the Minister can help me with this. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Schumann.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. There is no specific amount for capital for access roads. Those are set on priorities that the government sees as we move towards our transportation plan. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister Schumann. Time has expired. Mr. Simpson.

Thank you. Just to follow up on Mr. Beaulieu's comments here, the local community roads on page 240, there is $1.48 million appropriated for it. Should that be in the capital budget? What is this doing here if that is a capital item? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Simpson. Deputy Minister Guy.