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Stewart

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I am not sure that I know all of the details of exactly what they would get access to. I know that there have been cases where they have been provided things like test scores and those sorts of things, but I don't know the level that they go down to. We could look into that and get back to the Member specifically around the panel's notes and those sorts of things, but I think it is mostly about scoring and that sort of stuff that they would get.

The other thing that we do, and this is outside the appeal process, is that, on every competition for Northerners, if somebody is not successful and they get regrets, we actually will go through their resume with them or their interview and say, "Here's something that you might want to try next time," so that they can learn. If there are things in the interview that they didn't do well on, outside the appeal process, they can still get some tips that might help them in the next competition. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that information. It helps me when constituents ask me the questions about what the process is. I know that, in the past, I have seen people give a position and give them training plans. I guess my question is: do we still do this? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, going back to my earlier comment, we identify somebody who has the ability to move through the system and, with the proper training, move into a management role. I think we see it government-wide. We have a lot of Indigenous people now in management roles, and some of it is through the training of the GNWT, and there are a number of training options that are available. So we continue to work with them, and, if there is an opportunity for them to be identified, get a position, move through the system, we will train them, and we have the appropriate appropriation to do so. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess maybe I should have made myself a little bit clearer. I understand the government system and how to work with that. What I am talking about is a person who is not in the government system, who has the qualifications but, say, doesn't have writing skills up to snuff but has the experience of five, 10 years in there. Does the department or does the government allow the opportunity to set up training plans? Because I know in the past we have been able to. I have seen it happen, where we found an individual and set him up to take the training position for the job. I guess my question is: do we still do these types of things, or is it just now based on competition? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Stewart.

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Stewart

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Two things on that: there still are training positions that departments can use if they want to hire somebody, and that feeds into the regional recruitment program that I am sure the Member is aware of. Then the other program we started last year is something called the gateway program, where we have provided funding to departments to go out, and we put out calls for applications on this for somebody who maybe doesn't quite have the skills to work in a government position yet and for various things, but it provides departments with funding to have them work part-time and then get education upgrades at the same time. We really see that as an opportunity, for maybe those residents who are out there who may be fell short in high school or weren't able to complete or did some sort of post-secondary, to help them get back while they are still getting some employment experience which would put them into a position to be able to compete for jobs. So that is a new program we have launched this fiscal year. I think we are starting to get some applications in. I think it's 15 or 20 who we have supported so far, but I have a lot for that as a pathway in for people to get a little experience and a little education and move into permanent employment with the government. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Nothing further from Mr. Thompson. Anything further from committee on human resources? Seeing none, I will call the activity. Finance, human resources, operations expenditure summary, $21,039,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. Please turn to the next activity, information systems shared services, ISSS. Comments or questions on this activity? Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. In the main estimates, on 149 is the number of active positions, and it only increases by eight people between the two years. Is this where this integrated shared services systems unit or whatever it's called, ISSS, is being moved into? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Deputy Minister Stewart.

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Stewart

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, this is the information systems shared services unit, so this is the initiative that we have talked to the committee about, of basically consolidating all of the resources from across government into one unit to do information systems development. Really, the genesis of that was a review that was done and a recognition that there is an awful lot of this work being done in government; often it was not being coordinated particularly well, and you had different departments doing different things, and that led to duplication and those sorts of things. The other thing that came out of the review was just the ability to take advantage for career pathing and training and to learning from each other, so the decision was to set up this shared services unit and have a governance model around it that would keep departments getting the services they need. Really, it reflects the demand for an increasing number of services online and those sorts of things, so we are really structuring ourselves to be able to move in a much more major way into that area. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Deputy Minister Stewart. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Okay. I accept that the work was done. Why, the active positions, is there only an increase of eight? I thought there were like 78 people or something who were being moved from different departments into finance. How many people are moving into finance as a result of the establishment of this new unit? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Deputy Minister Stewart.

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Stewart

Thanks, Mr. Chair. The main estimates reflect the restatement from various departments, but I can provide for the Member a little detail behind that. Sixty-nine of those positions, of the 88 positions for 2019-2020, are transfers from other departments, so it reflects that consolidation. Eleven positions were existing in finance because the office of CIO was already there. As well, we had a couple of these types of position in the department already. There was one position that was re-profiled from existing resources to create another project management position. There was initiative funding for four positions that related to making sure that we provide the level of support we need to departments. Then, finally, there was another initiative that was not related to the consolidation but was related to providing e-service, where we are setting up a small service unit in Fort Smith that will provide I call it "virtual GSO-type service," so that people who are trying to do online services can actually reach out and phone somebody to get help, if they need, for service delivery across the GNWT that is done on an e-service basis. That is being set up this year, as well. That is where you get to the 88 total, so 69 come from other departments and then some from finance and a little bit from initiative funding. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Deputy Minister Stewart. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. So where are these 69 people actually going to be housed, which building? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Deputy Minister Stewart.

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Stewart

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I think the initial plan is they will be in three different locations. Some will be in the gallery building. There was already a shared service unit for Lands, ENR, and ITI, and we will use the space that was there. Some will be in the Laing Buildings, where the office of the CIO was. There may be some swapping out of space. Then the third sort of focal point will be in Northwest Tower, what I affectionately call "the green building." There is some space that we were able to get through infrastructure for a third spot there. Obviously, ideally, we would like to have everybody come together, but this is a rather large unit, so many departments have multiple locations, and we will just have to work with this for the time being, until we can maybe consolidate into a single location. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Deputy Minister Stewart. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. So do all of these people move on April 1st? Thank you.