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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Hay River South. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, I absolutely agree. We need to not only look at natural gas. We need to look at things like hydro, as well. We need to get the communities, smaller communities, off of diesel. Diesel is not good for the environment. It's not good for people. It's not good for the cost of living, so we have an obligation to do that. I do know that some of the Indigenous governments in our northern communities, in Inuvik, are looking at not only for natural gas and how we use it in the territories, but also for exporting internationally. I think that we need to stay on top of it, and we need to be open to whatever opportunities we can get in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am looking at the line that says: "Increase [...] the mining incentive programs by 50 percent over the next four years." I see "Winter 2020, increase by 10 percent," and then I am going to the main estimates tabled today and see that the Mining Incentive Program has not increased by 10 percent, $100,000. Will we see a supplementary appropriation for $100,000 to increase the Mining Incentive Program in this session? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The budget that you see, that was presented by the finance Minister today as the O and M budget. It's the main budget. These mandates will have their own budget, and that is the process that we need to bring forward. We have money that is set aside just for the mandates. It's a matter that we do not have enough money for all of the mandates, so there will be tough decisions to be made. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I believe I heard the Minister of Finance state earlier that these will be brought in supplemental appropriations in the June sitting, so can I just confirm that we will not meet this mandate of winter 2020, increase 10 percent, and this should in fact be spring 2020?

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Minister of Finance?

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Any initiatives at this point that would be coming through from ITI would either have to be internally funded or would have to come through a supplementary appropriation.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister of Finance. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am going to hold Cabinet to account here and say we have already made one error, and this will be spring 2020 is my guess, if we are getting this to $1.1 million, or perhaps ITI finds something. Anyways, sorry, I have lost my train of thought. No further questions, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

All right. Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Are there any further questions on "Increase resource exploration and development"? Seeing none, committee, we will move to page 21, "Reduce the cost of power and increase the use of alternative and renewable energy." Questions? Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am just looking at the second point here, "Expand the reach of energy conservation and efficiency initiatives." It notes that the intention is to partner with key stakeholders to provide these initiatives to those most in need. What I have found in talking to people within my constituency is that quite often our thresholds either are so low that people are not able to take advantage of programming or, if people do meet the threshold, they don't have the financing to actually go out and do the work and then be reimbursed down the road by organizations like the Arctic Energy Alliance. I am just wondering if we are going to make sure that the people that this program is intended for are actually supported to be able to take advantage of these initiatives. Thank you.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Deputy Minister Goldney would like to respond.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Mr. Goldney.

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Goldney

Thank you, Madam Chair. I think the intent really in that mandate item is in part recognition that we do not have the program structured in the most efficient way to benefit those most in need, and part of that is signaling that we need to work with our partners to have that better focused, to make sure that we get better results, including having programs that might be means tested, as an example, so it's not just folks like me who can take advantage, who have taken advantage, of some of these programs and can most afford to, but perhaps better utilize those programs to reach more people. That is the intention. The details still need to be worked out, so there is a lot of further discussion and engagement that is expected with our partners. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Mr. Goldney. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. In the first point in this table, "Reduced reliance on diesel," there are three items that use the term "advance," and both have timelines of fall 2020. I am wondering if the Premier could please provide some indication of how Members on this side of the House can hold her accountable to advancing something in 2020, and kind of what expectations she has for her Cabinet to meet these advance stipulations? Thank you.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. If the Members would like, we can offer a briefing to the standing committee to identify where we are with each of these projects, and the timeline that we see for them, if that would work for the Members. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Kam Lake.