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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Office space in Hay River is limited and probably the cost of temporary office space moving would exceed that $350,000 by quite a bit. That's probably the right choice to make. I just want to go back to the health authority and bring them in with the GNWT. There has been talk about that, I guess, and the cost associated with it. I'm expecting that there have to be discussions to make sure that they actually want to come in with the GNWT. I guess more of a comment than anything. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Hay River South. I'll take it as a comment. All right, do we have any other comments? So, 2019-2020 Supplementary Estimates No. 4, (Operation Expenditures), Health and Social Services, administrative and support services, not previously authorized, $2,713,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Health and Social Services, ambulatory care services, not previously authorized, $18,485,000. Does committee agree? Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I am happy to see a lot of these line items don't have a net effect on government operations because they are fully offset. I'm wondering about the last line, "to provide funding for costs associated with expenditures for services received by NWT residents from physicians outside the Northwest Territories." Does that include people with disabilities residing in permanent care outside the NWT? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Madam Chair, I am not certain. I believe that it does. I'm not sure if the Minister of Health has that information at her fingertips, as to whether or not funding for out-of-territory individuals under this supplementary appropriate includes individuals with disabilities who may be residing permanently outside the territory. Yes, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Madam Chair, thank you. Yes, and I'm sorry for the awkward back and forth there, but yes, this does include individuals with disabilities from the Northwest Territories but having to reside elsewhere in order to receive their treatments for services.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister of Finance. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Does this number also include residents who travel for medical travel down to, say, Edmonton, for appointments with physicians down in Alberta, who aren't necessary permanently residing outside of the territory? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Yes, Madam Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Is the Minister of Finance currently in conversation with Minister of Health and Social Services to find out how they can reduce the number of potentially unnecessary medical travel costs to see southern physicians so that we can make sure that we don't continue to have really high supplementals for physician appointments outside the territory? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, Madam Chair, the Management Board Secretariat is actually currently working with the Department of Health and Social Services and the Northwest Territories Health Authority in order to assess the factors and the impact on the costs that are leading to overages. This is right now an internal review, it's an internal effort, but the intention is, in fact, to do exactly as the Member is requesting, which is to determine whether or not there is a more efficient way to deliver the services, to identify which areas might be ones that could be managed more effectively. Thank you, Madam, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Would the Minister of Finance or the Minister of Health and Social Services be prepared to provide a breakdown of this $2.4-million figure to show what quantity of that is going to people with disabilities residing in permanent care outside the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Yes, Madam Chair, we can provide that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just looking at the line item here that's just north of that $12 million, I'm curious to know if these monies will be allocated for costs associated with expenditures for services received by Metis residents in hospitals outside of territory. Does that mean it's the US and abroad, as well? Do we pay to jurisdictions outside the country?

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. Minister of Finance.