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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will, like I said, I committed to sharing it with standing committee and getting feedback on this. The other thing that I should note is that, when the Member brought up the issue of the resource royalties, we share that with Indigenous governments, so Indigenous governments will be part of this review. We will make sure that they are all part of this as well. They are partners in this. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 2-19(2): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 17-19(2): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 4, 2019-2020, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I'm fine having this $300,000 spent to redo the study, but there are lots of other international examples that we can and should be looking at in terms of benefit retention. Norway has a pension fund that is now over a trillion dollars because of the way they manage their North Sea oil and gas; North Sea oil, in particular. They also had state ownership of part of it through Statoil, so there are lots of examples that we can and should be learning from around the world, not just repeating some of the mistakes that have been made in Canada around resource development. It needs to be a well-rounded review that does engage and involve the public, and looking at international best practices, as well.

I want to go one other item if I can in here, Madam Chair, and it's the socio-economic forum that's mentioned in the middle item. I do think that that's a good idea, but I would hope that the participation be extended beyond just the mining industry and Indigenous governments and GNWT. I think there are others that have an interest and, perhaps, stake in this. There are people in academia who have looked at this before. Maybe some NGOs might have some thoughts or ideas. Are we going to try to find a way to make this a little more inclusive than the way it's portrayed here? Thanks, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 2-19(2): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 17-19(2): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 4, 2019-2020, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Madam Premier.

Committee Motion 2-19(2): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 17-19(2): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 4, 2019-2020, Carried
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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Absolutely. The Member is correct. This one overlaps not only the public, but also into many departments. This one will have an interest in all the departments, applicable departments, for this as well, and we will engage with all applicable stakeholders in this work. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Are there any further questions to "Adopt benefit retention approach to economic development?" Seeing none, committee, we will move to page 24, "Improve early childhood indicators for all children." Questions? Member for Yellowknife Centre.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. I'd like to ask about the third point, which talks about expanding community-based, family-friendly programming beginning this summer. I am unclear about whether this is a new program or whether this is an existing program that is being expanded? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife Centre. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Some of this will be building on the Healthy Families Program. We know that needs to be built on. Also, I'm a huge advocate, the Member knows that my degree is in social work, and I'm a huge advocate of early childhood development. It is part of the answer. Education is the next answer.

This one, for sure, we will be looking at. We're looking at items like community-led initiatives such as parent/teen cultural camps. I'm not going to put boxes around and say: this is what we're going to define it as. It's about community-led initiatives to support families and children.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you for that, Madam Premier. If you're going to design some kind of granting program like the anti-poverty fund to assist this, is it realistic to begin this in the summer of 2020? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife Centre. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

When we first did these things, I mean, the timelines were a little bit too conservative, and so we listened to the Regular Members and standing committee, and they said: be bold. This is a little bit bold. I don't think is actually something that we can't accomplish. I do know that we have a lot of programs within the Northwest Territories that are already offering services. I think that we can begin this work in 2020. I don't think this work will be finished in 2020 in the summer, but we can certainly start it. In fact, we should be looking at, internally, starting it now. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have just one more question in this area, and that has to do with the point below of streamlining early childhood development funding. How do these two items relate to one another? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife Centre. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. This is where experience comes in handy. In my previous role, working in NGOs for over 20 years, working with low-income families, the annual funding that has been received has always been an issue, especially for NGOs that are small. Their sustainability is not secure, so we are looking at actually expanding the funding so that it would be multi-year funding to accommodate smaller societies, et cetera, that need the security of being able to retain their staff. They do not directly link. A lot of community-led initiatives will be in that situation, where they do not have the sustainability, where they need that guarantee so that they can keep their employees and their programs going. However, they are not contingent on each other. We are looking at multi-year funding, but we are open to ideas at the same time, so it's not just people who are getting services now; we are also looking at expanding it. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Oh, I thought you said "Frame Lake." Sorry.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. It's been a long day. So this page actually makes me very excited. I think there are some really great wins on this page that make me very, very happy to see. The multi-year funding is huge; the single-window funding for grants, huge; training provided for family support workers is also very exciting to me. I do have a couple of questions, though. Under the first line, "ensure better coordinated services for children and their families," I want to make sure that this includes the thousand children every year who are involved in Child and Family Services, who are generally in higher need of a lot of these services and that we are really focusing on making sure that those kids have access to the services and the programming that they need. So that would be my first question: does this include the children of Child and Family Services, with a great big exclamation mark? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Absolutely. Those children are in the care of Government of the Northwest Territories. We have an obligation to take care of those children just as if they were our own children, so my commitment and the commitment of all of our Cabinet is to working interdepartmentally to make sure that we have the best services for all children, and it's not one or the other, but not forgetting the children who we are in charge of, as well. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 2-19(2): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 17-19(2): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 4, 2019-2020, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Kam Lake.