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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. My second question is in regard to wait times for access to assessment and rehabilitation services for children being reduced. At what point does Cabinet intend to focus that on teams who travel the north, on specialists who come and live in communities versus when they decide they are going to send kids out in order to reduce those wait times? I am just wondering kind of what our threshold of that measurement is going to be. Is this mandate item going to actually be something that just results in a huge increase in our medical travel costs and that will be our only way of looking at achieving that, or are we looking at other ways to make sure that we are providing those services to kids across the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will have to get back to the Member on that answer. In all honesty, I do not have the answer at this time. The whole idea is that we are going to be working closer together within the departments. There is no guarantee that we will not still need to send children out for medical, so I am not going to guarantee that it would alleviate our medical travel needs. However, when we have more programs in the communities, there is less need. A lot of the NGOs actually will provide services to people who do not even come to the government. It's when we do not have any services that it impacts the GNWT more. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Yes, I guess just a comment. Thank you, Madam Chair. I would never expect a child to not get service because of wait times or to deny medical travel by any means. I just want to make sure that we are looking at ways that we can provide these services to kids in the way that best suits them. Sometimes travelling all the way to Edmonton if you are from Whati or if you are from even Yellowknife or you are from Ulukhaktok can be very intimidating and very scary, and so, depending on what it is you are receiving service for, it may actually add to the stress and the anxiety of the child who is receiving the service. So I am just looking to make sure that we are approaching this from all angles and looking at different options of how we can best serve kids. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. So, yes, one of the examples of programming that we have that is working and we should look at moving it forward is the integrated service delivery program that is offered. That program is like a one-stop shop. You get one worker, and then they get taken to where they need to. They had done research within that program to validate the need of it, and they found that it was just unreasonable to expect that one family member would have to go to the number of government appointments. This model, the integrated service delivery service model, is proven to work. It is a model; it's one model, but we have to work across all departments, and that is why this Cabinet is different. This Cabinet is doing a lot more consultation between each other. It's no longer every man and one woman for themselves. It's more of: let's be a team. So, that, we carry forward, so, yes, we will do our best to try to make sure that as many children as possible don't fall through the cracks, because that is the goal. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Madam Premier. Anything further, Member for Kam Lake?

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess the only thing I would add to that is a good-news story, and that would be ECE's travelling support team, as well, who goes into the schools. I really look forward to seeing where that team goes over the next three-and-a-half years. Thank you. No further questions.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am really happy to see the way this is being done in collaboration with Indigenous governments. I do not want to see what happened with the implementation of junior kindergarten, where it almost felt like we were pegging Aboriginal Head Start against junior kindergarten. Also, within the Healthy Family Program, I am happy to see that there is going to be a made-in-the-North program. In my previous career as a nurse, this program, when I was working in Yellowknife, the families that I was working with, it was a good program, but I think as it started to leave Yellowknife and the capacity in to the communities, that it did not hold that same structure and maybe it was the way that it was being taught or not taught. So one of things that I know is the Hotii ts'eeda researched on that whole program, so I would like to know if that is the model going from the research that was done by Hotii ts'eeda, which is the SPOR unit for the NWT, scientific patient-oriented research. They funded that Healthy Family Program review. Do you know if that is coming from that?

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. So is the question: there was a review done, and is the Healthy Family Program operating on the recommendations of the review? Is that the question that I am hearing? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Sorry I wasn't so clear. I do not think my time was reset because I do not think I talked for eight minutes on that, either. I am going to let you know. What I was saying was I think it was in the last year that the SPOR unit, Hotii ts'eeda, did review the Healthy Family Program, did some research in that, and so I am just wondering if this curriculum is based on that report or the outcome.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will ask the Minister of Health and Social Services to address that question. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Madam Premier. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. That is definitely something we look at. I mean, you look at the whole mandate itself, to "improve early childhood development indicators for all children," and if there is something out there. Our government keeps saying we need to look at strengthening partnerships and you look at the Child and Family Services, the new legislation that is coming out. Here is an opportunity for us to work with Indigenous groups, to be able to work together for the best interests of children, and if Hotii ts'eeda is doing a research project, something that we could build on, that's definitely something that we should have a look at. If it's working, then why not? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Further questions, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes?

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

I do know that the deputy minister does sit on that governing board. Deputy minister of Health and Social Services, the Department of Health and Social Services, sits on that governing board. They should be aware of that research project that was done. I just want to make sure, because they did meet in the community. Like, they went around to different communities, and I will use Inuvik, for example. They met with the Healthy Family Program. They met with the Indigenous governments. They met with the Ingamo Hall healthy babies program. They even reached out to the Muslims to make sure that the programs that are being provided are going to reach out to the Muslim families in Inuvik. That's something that I'd never seen in health before, that reached out to that group, and we do have a lot of them. I just want to make sure that, within this and in creating this, we do look at that report. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. You have a commitment by the Minister that she will review the report to make sure. The other thing I should mention is that, in this one, the early childhood development, it's critical that we work with our Indigenous governments, and thank you for bringing it to my attention. The federal government has made legislation that actually allows Indigenous governments to draw down the care of their own children. I happen to be an advocate for that. I hate to say it, but across Canada, jurisdictions, public governments, have not done a great job of it.

We have one Indigenous government already that is interested in drawing down the care of their children. I am a big, strong supporter. I am also a supporter of not setting people up to fail. I have told the Indigenous governments that, in anything they're asking to draw down, I will support them, but I will tell them the pros and cons of every issue so that they make informed decisions based on the best knowledge that they have at the time. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Madam Premier. Anything further, Inuvik Twin Lakes?

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Just one last comment. I know when we went with the daycare in Inuvik and just some of the programming for the early childhood, like Ingamo's healthy families, they really struggle to keep staff, and we hear that all the time in these NGOs. They struggle to keep staff because they can't get a commitment longer than March 31st, especially for funding when it comes to child programming. I really look forward to seeing how this is going to be multi-year funding so we can ensure that people get these jobs, and when we are training all these early childhood providers, they come back and take these jobs. Thank you.