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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Are there any further questions on "Increase the number of resident healthcare professionals by at least 20 percent?" Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess things have changed with workers nowadays, that includes the doctors and nurses, and people want quality of life. In the past, you could count on doctors and nurses to work 20-hour days. I think those days are gone. Having locums come in here, and nurses, I think that is going to be the standard for a while, and I agree with my colleagues that we can't throw them out to the wind. We should be planning how to best use them to our advantage. Firstly, for quality healthcare for our residents, and the second thing we worry about is the cost.

I guess I am wondering, the healthcare system is, of course, in a deficit. What impact does having to bring locums in, outside medical services and professionals into the North? How does that impact, and are we capturing that back from the federal government? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Hay River South. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I was a bit confused about what the actual question was. My guess, and correct me if I am wrong, is that you are asking if the federal government is covering the cost of this. That isn't the case, although healthcare is on the agenda for the federal government and all the Premiers. Premiers across Canada are asking for flexibility within that. I will carry that message forward. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess the other area that we don't tap into, for whatever reason, is through immigration and doctors and professionals from other countries. Why is that? I guess I know why it is, but I want to hear it from you why that is and what we are going to do about it or what we can do about it, working in conjunction with the federal government. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Hay River South. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The reason that is, is because there is not one set of standards of care or training or qualifications across the world. For example, I have heard nightmare stories of people in some countries that are pulling teeth on sidewalks. Do you want me to make them your dentist? Those are the things that I am asking. There has to be a quality of care that people need to meet the standards, the Canadian standards of healthcare. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just a comment. Actually, I am under the non-insured health benefits, the Indian Affairs, and that is the care we get. Thank you, Madam Chair.

---Laughter

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Hay River South. I will take that as a comment. Are there any further questions on "Increase the number of resident healthcare professionals by at least 20 percent?" Seeing none, committee, we will move on to page 35, "Create a polytechnic university." Questions? Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

I would like to begin, on behalf of Frieda, saying the headquarters will remain in Fort Smith. Also, I think I would like, on this issue specifically, to move on from the number of conversations that have happened around the president and begin to look to the future. I am very excited about this. I have been to a number of university towns across the circumpolar North, and the key is they are economic drivers. They employ hundreds of people. They are very inspiring. Yukon College, unfortunately, is going to beat us and will become Yukon University in two months. I am going there in two weeks from now to get a tour. They are doing amazing things. I hope we can put a lot of things behind us and get forward on the path. My specific question here is: can we have an update on where we are working with the federal government to access infrastructure funding immediately ongoing? Do we believe we are going to be able to capture that funding, and what is the chance of it being 100 percent funding?

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. What I can say is that, right now, the federal government is looking at a post-secondary strategy for the North. I am guessing, but I am not 100 percent sure if that is just the three northern territories or if that includes northern Quebec, northern Labrador, all of those that sometimes the federal government includes. That, I don't have the answers on. I do know that, right now, when they do give infrastructure funding, it is usually -- not always, but usually -- 75 cents, or 25-cent dollars. As I said in this House before, we are in a place that we need to start asking for more, and I am willing to take that on and start asking for more and explain to them the huge gaps in the Northwest Territories and the territories compared to the southern jurisdictions. I cannot commit, though, that that will happen. I would love to be able to, but no, it is in the hands of the federal government. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I know that there have been a number of questions on this, but one of the very exciting things about a university is that, once you actually get it to that point where it is accredited; it has a board of governors; it has a senate; it is arm's length from government; professional universities go and get their own funding. They raise money through endowments. There are lots of donations. The potential for a university to go and get 100 percent funding is much greater than it is for the current Aurora College structure, which is essentially the GNWT going and getting money.

I am just looking through this. Can I get a sense of the timeline of when we expect Aurora College to have a board of governors again? A senate was recommended in the Aurora College review. What timeline can we kind of expect it to be arm's length from the GNWT, and what is the end date we are looking at in that it will actually be a university? Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would like to transfer that question to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will go back to the Member's first question. We don't have big asks out to the federal government right now, because we haven't done the infrastructure assessment. We have a good idea of what we might need, but you need better than an idea before you go asking for money. The work to determine what infrastructure we are going to need will be done later this year.

The second question that you just asked was about timelines. As I have said before, we are looking at 2022 for a return to a board of governors. The senate would be some time thereafter, and what that senate looks like or what the governance model looks like is still to be determined. I can say that, but that doesn't mean that that is the way that it is necessarily going to be, because we are still early in this. We are still in the phase where we are strengthening the foundation of the college and preparing for the transformation. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am happy to hear 2022 for the board of governors. That is sharing my term, so I can see that step. Hopefully, I will see a senate formed. Then I just want to clarify. This is to transform Aurora College over the next six years. Are we on track, and do we believe that, in 2026, Aurora College will be a university, accredited as such?

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes. That is what we currently believe. However, I have told the House before and the committees before that this isn't necessarily about getting it done as quickly as possible so we can check boxes. It is about doing it right, and if things need to be pushed back by a season because we are not ready to start a capital project or something like that, or the legislation isn't where it should be, and committee might need more time to look at the legislation, I am willing to make those adjustments to timelines, but as it stands, a lot of work has gone into creating a timeline, and 2026 is what that timeline currently says, and that is what we are aiming for. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Are there any further questions on "Create a polytechnic"? Member for Monfwi.