Thank you, Madam Chair. That, it seems like it would be a simple fix, but for some of the details on this, with your indulgence, I would like to hand it over to Mr. MacDonald.
Debates of March 3rd, 2020
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Macdonald
Thank you, Madam Chair. This is definitely an interesting question in terms of protocol. One of the things that we have wanted to look into is whether a name change for the facility would trigger any issues with His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, other issues such as that, so, from a protocol perspective, we are still in the research stage, to try to understand what that would entail and who to actually speak to. However, we are hoping to wait until after there is a bit more clarity on the planning study, itself, before we really dive into some of those questions. Thank you.
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The Chair Julie Green
Thank you, Mr. MacDonald. Do you have any further questions, Member for Frame Lake?
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Madam Chair, no, other than I appreciate the information that has been provided by the staff. They know that I am a strong supporter of the facility and the functions that it performs, and I look forward to the next phase of the life of that particular institution. Thanks, Madam Chair.
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Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh
Thank you, Madam Chair. Just looking at the operations expenditure summary, looking at the 2018 actuals, and there is a decrease to now, the mains, of about $480,000 for the Indigenous languages and education secretariat. Would the Minister be able to explain that decrease in the last couple of years? Mahsi cho.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you. Just one moment if you don't mind, Madam Chair? My apologies.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you, Madam Chair. That relates to the grants that go out through that particular division, and there were actually more applications and more money out the door than was budgeted for, and so it's not a decrease in budget. The budget remained the same, but we actually spent more than we budgeted for in the year the Member is referencing. Thank you.
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Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh
Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you for the response from the Minister. That's good that that's the case. Just moving along here, I'm looking at one other line here that kind of caught my eye. There's also a variance here from the 2018-2019 actuals, and the mains for this year for fees and payments, and 2018-2019 was $795,000, and now, this year, it's $371,000. Can the Minister explain the difference in that line is about? Mahsi cho.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you. That's actually related to the overpayments referenced earlier by the Member, so the additional $500,000 that went out the door with the Indigenous language and education secretariat, that's reflected in that same number right there, as well as the changes in the other program detail lines.
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Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh
Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you for the response from the Minister. I have nothing further.
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The Chair Julie Green
Thank you. Are there further questions on this section? Member for Yellowknife North.
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Chair. I had to Google, just so everyone is aware. Charles is the Prince of Wales. I didn't actually know that. I would be very happy if we changed the name of that. Talking about the Crown is one of my favourite topics. Madam Chair, my question is, I really think and need to emphasize that our museum is for the entire territory, and we have some of the most unique, cultural history in the world here, and our museum's job is essential to preserving that. I wanted to speak briefly about revenues.
I love the museum. Increasingly, it has more and more tourists going through it, and I want to emphasize that I think it should always be free for the Northwest Territories residents. I look at all the tourists who go in there, and it's completely free, and I wonder why we're not making some money off of that, and perhaps it could be in a revolving fund or something. My question is: has there ever been any consideration about charging those tourists to access the museum?
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you. Currently, the museum is free for everyone. It's by donation. I am sure many people, if not most people, don't donate anything, but as far as the history of those discussions, if you don't mind, I can hand it over to my deputy minister, Ms. Mueller.
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Mueller
Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, we have discussed, for a number of years now, the pros and cons of having a fee for outside NWT residents, and to date, the discussion has always been that it's a place where people can really learn about our territory, about the people, and the culture. To date, the feeling has been that donations give people an opportunity, if they wish to, donate what they can. They can, and if not, they can still come and enjoy without having a fee. The reason for that is, a fee often does present barriers for certain individuals or families from coming in and participating in the activities as much as they want. Thank you.
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm happy to hear those conversations we're having. I think I'm kind of on the side that we should be charging. Can I get a sense, do we know what the donation total is on an annual basis?