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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, thank you. One of the discussions we had late in the last Assembly was about the possibility of rewriting the standards of space provided for childcare, in order to make it more accessible. As the Minister may recall, the standard for childcare space is akin to hospital space. It's a very high quality of space that is required. Not all communities have space available in that quality of building, so is there any development at all on the idea of making the space requirements for childcare more attainable? Thank you.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. If you'll indulge me, I will go back to the Member's previous comments about the Early Learning and Child Care Agreement annual report that is done by the department. That was tabled in the last Assembly, the last year of the last Assembly, so that should be readily available. In terms of the Member's present question, yes, we are doing that work of looking at the spaces available; what type of spaces we can use; you know, looking at whether or not we can use government infrastructure, looking at how, in conjunction with the Housing Corporation, homes can be used for spaces. We have to commit to ensuring that these spaces are safe. That is the primary goal. I would not say it's akin to hospital space, but there are high standards. That being said, we are always open to looking at those standards, re-evaluating those standards. Thank you.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. At this point, we will call a 10-minute recess or break.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Members, I will now call the committee back to order. Next up, we have the Member for Nunakput.

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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Education is very important across the North. Our education rates, our inclusive schooling needs across the territory, but over the course of this government's term, we will spend over $70 million in forced growth for our UNW collective bargaining compared to our $25 million that we have set aside for all of the 22 priorities that we put as 19 Members. It's only a third of what we're spending in the salaries of increases that are going to happen. You know, some of that money would have been much better and needed in early childhood and school services. Mr. Chair, it's more of a comment, but I think we have to take a step back and take a good look at what we're doing here. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you to the Member for the comment.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Member for Nunakput.

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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

No. At least the Minister's hearing me loud and clear. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. The next will be the Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to ask a question to the Minister with regard to the territorial support team, and how many times they go into the communities. Because it's a territorial support team, I would like to know how many times they come to the community of Fort Smith?

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. It's on a referral basis, so it's not scheduled visits. It's based on the needs of the community. For some detail, I can go to the deputy minister. Thank you.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Deputy Minister.

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Mueller

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The territorial team is available to all schools and all education bodies. It is based on referrals. What they do is they indicate through their superintendent a particular child that they would like to have help and support with. Often, it's initiated by the principal, and the program support teacher, and the classroom teacher. That support comes in a variety of ways. If the team is needed onsite, they'll go onsite. Often, they're helping through video conferencing and through teleconferencing as well, so that's daily. They might have multiple meetings with different schools, talking about different supports for various students. Thank you.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Deputy Minister. Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

I guess a territorial support team, they're very hard to find qualified people like psychologists and a whole team to go into, to have a team in every community which is ideal and that will never happen, but if the territorial support team is only done by referral, I think there should be a more organized group. The group should actually be doing every month or every two months, at least, into the community. When they're not there, I'm just wondering if the special needs children, the autism and all the special needs that we have at schools, are being financially looked after in a different way.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. I appreciate what the Member is saying. It would be nice if we had the resources to send the team out to the regions on a regular basis, but the fact is, they just don't have the time. We don't have enough people. This is intended to augment what's already going on in the community, not to replace that. It's not the only service that these students would be getting. It's valuable. For the students who need it, it's very, very valuable for the students, the parents, and the teachers. I would love to do what the Member is asking and get them out into the different communities on a regular basis, but the fact is that we just don't have the power to do that, the number of people that we would need to do that. Thank you.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

I'd like to ask the Minister: how could you call this a territorial support team if they're not able to go into the communities?