Thank you, Madam Chair. Are you considering changing that ratio, as well, to, say, maybe three or four or five apprentices per journeyperson? Thank you, Madam Chair.
Debates of March 3rd, 2020
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you. That flexibility is available. We can do that, from my understanding, without a change to the regulations or any acts, and so again that is the type of initiative we might be looking at. We need to be flexible. We have journeymen retiring at an accelerating rate, it seems like, and we have not been doing what we need to do to replace them over the past number of years. All across Canada, we are facing a shortage in skilled labour, and, just like anything else, the North is an extreme example of that. This is at the front of my mind. We are not going to build local economies, we are not going to keep money in the North unless we can increase the number of apprentices and journeypersons, and I am fully committed to doing my best to making that happen. Thank you.
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Rocky Simpson Hay River South
Thank you, Madam Chair. Earlier today, I raised the issue of only year one and year two of apprenticeships being covered, and I have read somewhere where it said that in years three and four, government expected that these apprentices would basically pay their own way. I can tell you right now that that is not the case. With the economy the way it is, a lot of small employers, if they have apprentices working, they will keep them on if they know they are getting that subsidy; they will keep them on, even if they do not have enough work, and maybe have them do other things. The subsidy is very, very important, and I think you need to know that, and I think it should be expanded to years three and four. I think it might have been like that before. I am not sure, but I would urge your department to look at, at least consider, in year three and possibly year four because it's like anything else. It's like going to university. You go for four years. When you come out, you still don't know anything, and, if you think you know it, then you don't know anything. It's the same in this case, as well. I think it's important that we give the apprentices every opportunity to succeed, and it's important that we also make sure that the employers who are taking a chance on them are provided that same opportunity. I am not sure if there is a question in there, but they can comment. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Sure. Similar to the comments I made earlier today in the House, I am open to looking at that because I get calls from businesses all the time who are just doing their best to stay open and keep people employed, and sometimes this subsidy or the little bit of help they can get makes the difference between having to lay someone off and helping someone get to that next year, so we will do what we can. Thank you.
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Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I have a few questions. My first is for the apprenticeship and occupational certification line. How many apprenticeships are currently involved in the program? Thank you.
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Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. On page 51, under "grants," there is "workforce development agreement," and under "contributions," there is also, the bottom line, "workforce development agreement." I am wondering if the Minister can speak to the differences between these two line items and why one is going up and the other is going down? Thank you.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you. If you don't mind, I would like to let Mr. Saturnino answer that.
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Saturnino
Thank you, Madam Chair. The workforce development agreement is a federal labour market agreement that we signed with Canada, and what you are seeing here are two distinct line items, one that funds individuals who access the program and also employers and the other that funds organizations. Essentially, unlike the territorial budget lines, in this particular area, we can spend in either area, as long as we do not go over the maximum. So, if the demand is for the grants, we can exceed the amount as long as we are not exceeding the total, and so we have that flexibility under our federal labour market agreement. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Okay, so, just so that I understand, the difference is whether we are funding an organization or an individual, a specific individual, or an employer, but we can shuffle money between the two as long as they are consistently going for workforce development. Is that correct?
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Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. My next question is in regard to Aurora College. I am wondering if the Minister can tell us both the number of graduates from last year and the number of students? Thank you.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you. If you will just give me a moment, I have to pull up that information. In 2018-2019, we had 486 full-time students and 1,523 part-time students enrolled. I will get you the graduation numbers shortly.