This is page numbers 845 - 886 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was services.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The medical services includes the insured hospital physician services provided to the Northwest Territories residents outside the NWT care. The majority of these, our patients are in Alberta, and some of them are there already because of their complex needs. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. The residential care, $35 million for 169 people, and then, on top of that, we have medical services for them in that other budget, just to clarify? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister, can you clarify that point, please?

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. That is correct. That includes the $35,997,000 and the $35,435,000. This is something, our department, we need to be able to do this review because that's a lot of money, and I hear the Member keep referring to the amount of patients that are outside versus how much money we spend. That is a lot of money, and that's why having a review to be able to look at that might help to reduce some of the costs, if there are ways that we can do things that helps the patient and helps services here in the Northwest Territories.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm shocked. I didn't realize. There is no other care? This $73 million or $71 million is just for 169 people, or does that include all of our admissions that go down to outside of the territory who are admitted? Thank you. I just need clarification.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Further clarification, please, Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am just going to get Ms. Mathison to clarify. Apparently, I've been using the wrong notes, so I'll just get her to clarify. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Director of Finance.

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Mathison

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, that medical services line includes all costs associated with all NWT residents going down for physician or hospital services. The reason why the budget hasn't really increased there is because we tend to deal with increases in this budget on a supplementary appropriation basis because it's very difficult to project the demand on the services. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Director of Finance. Any further questions, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes?

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

The addictions treatment facility, we've got $2 million on this. We had that last year, and again, it was up for actuals 2018-2019, and then it was down a million, and now we're just kind of staying status quo this year. Do you have the numbers of how many addiction treatment facilities, how many clients this was for in the last year that we used to gauge this number? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The addictions treatment facilities includes facilities in the South, like Edgewood, Aventa, Poundmaker's and Fresh Start's. Ms. Mathison, director of finance, just mentioned about how we budget, and it's hard to budget a line item like this, so we bring it back to supplementary for the actuals. Thank you.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Do you have numbers on how many clients were served in the last fiscal year in the addictions treatment centre?

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

One hundred and ninety-one.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, nothing further. Any further questions for this item of out-of-territory services? Mr. Bonnetrouge.

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Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ronald Bonnetrouge Deh Cho

Just to follow up on the addictions treatment facilities, it's good that we're getting clients. You've noted that we get 191 clients, and I can only assume that they are all our residents from the Northwest Territories going south. Of course, there's always the issue of support services once they return to the communities. Do we provide any support services once they return home, considering that we do have social services and mental health workers in the communities? Mahsi.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Deh Cho. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. When we have clients go out for treatment and they come back, we have programs that are able to ensure that we keep them safe and that they just don't relapse back on their addictions or whatever the case may be. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Deh Cho.

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Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ronald Bonnetrouge Deh Cho

Thank you for that brief answer, and it wasn't specific enough. I am looking for something specific. We have programs. What programs are they afforded to, the people coming back, and if they are aware of them, if we can get a list of the programs that you have, the support services? Maybe an evaluation on the whole program would be very helpful. Mahsi.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Deh Cho. Minister.