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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Nothing further. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Hay River South. Are there any other comments on page 180, out of territory services? If there are no further questions, then, on page 180, I'm going to call the page. Out of territory services, operations expenditure summary, 2020-2021 Main Estimates, $73,528. Does the committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, committee. Next, we are going to look at funding allocated to health and social services authorities beginning on page 185. Are there questions on this page? Sorry, Members. I didn't realize these were double-sided pages. We are now going to consider supplementary health benefits beginning on page 182. Are there any questions on this page for the Minister? Go ahead, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes. Looking on page 183, the extended health benefits, can the Minister explain how, this year, they expect it to be less than previous years? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. In the previous years, the budget was $13 million, and this year, it is $11 million and change. The reason for the decrease is we got one-time funding in the prior year. Given that one-time funding was for us to do a supplementary benefits program review, so that's what our department is working on right now. In prior years, it was $13 million, and now, we're back down to $11 million as we're doing our review. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just to clarify, in 2018-2019, we had $13 million, and 2019-2020, we had $13.1 million, almost $13.2 million, and now, we're going down $2 million almost. It was $2 million a year for a review? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. In the prior years, we were able to do supplementary appropriations to be able to address any growth. That's why it's been $13 million, and then $13 million, but this year, we're not given the extra funding. If we do, it would be through a supplementary.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. I'm just kind of confused, just knowing my process now. The main estimates in 2019-2020 were the same as the revised estimates, so there was no supplementary appropriation in that section to my knowledge. I'm trying to figure out what exactly did we spend, or what are we not spending, or where did we cut $2 million out of this budget? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

I'm going to ask Ms. Mathison to help me out here. Thank you.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Director of finance.

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Mathison

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, this program area is one where we have in the past number of years overspent. We have annually addressed it through supplementary appropriations. In 2018-2019, we did get a supplementary appropriation to increase our expenditures there to $13 million. The budget actually hasn't changed. In 2018-2019, the budget was $11 million, but our spend was $18 million because we got supplementary appropriation. 2019-2020, we got one-time funding during the business planning process to meet the needs that we were expecting in 2019-2020 while we understood the supplementary health benefits review. That funding was approved on a one-time basis, subject to the results of our review. Yes, typically, we like our budgets not have to go to that supplementary appropriation process, and because of that review, we haven't been able to adjust our budget this year. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you for that answer. With that answer, with us sitting there with $11.4 million and we don't have the extra funding this year, what was given to me with 2018-2019 was $18 million. Is this budget we're looking at, probably a $6 to $7 million difference? That's what we need to be looking at for this next year? It's not actual? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The program is demand-based, as well, the actuals will fluctuate from year-to-year based on the benefits that we provide to clients. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

I'll move on to the next section. The medical travel benefits, we've got $19 million and then $15 million and $15 million. The $15 million for medical travel benefits, is this just for non-government travel, medical travel benefits? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The medical travel program is complex. Right now, if a patient in the Northwest Territories does not have any insurance or any way to cover their medical transportation, this is something that our department covers. However, if you are an employee of the GNWT and you require some medical travel, then the benefits will come through human resources. Thank you, Madam Chair.