This is page numbers 887 - 916 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was going.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to know if the department can tell me, in the 2018-2019, just so I can get a picture of what extra costs in overtime the NTHSSA had to come back for, to this government, well, not this government, but the previous government, to ask for, just related to overtime in the NTHSS? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I don't have that level of detail with me right now, but that is something we can look into. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister, for that commitment to come back with the information. Further questions, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes?

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

This is something that I have asked previously, so I guess I'll just move on to the next. Within this budget, knowing just kind of what I was talking about today in my Member's statement and with the nursing shortage, can the Minister tell me: do you know how much we spent in the past year alone on job shares and flying people in and out, and the travel costs for health positions? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. We don't have the details of the NTSSA's budget, but I may look to Ms. Mathison, if she has that level of detail. I don't know. We may have to, Madam Chair, get back to the Member in terms of some detail. Thank you.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Director of finance.

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Mathison

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, I do recall us pulling together this information when it was asked. I just don't have a copy of it here with me, but we do have that information available.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Director of finance. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, your time is expired. Do you need to be put back on the list? Any further questions? Member for Inuvik -- Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. Yes, I'd like to be the Member for Inuvik sometime in the future, maybe, but I think they have a couple of pretty good MLAs right now. I'm looking at the 2018-2019 annual report for NTHSSA. The accumulated deficit is $100 million. I'm just wondering if someone can tell me what the accumulated deficit is now for the authority. Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. There was a number that was shopped around previous in March when I met with AOC, and I want to make sure that the number is accurate. I'm going to ask Ms. Mathison or Mr. Cooper to come up with the most up-to-date deficit rather than me telling you what I told you in March. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you. Deputy Minister.

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Cooper

Thank you, Madam Chair. The accumulated deficit at this point is projected to be $119 million.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Deputy Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. Presumably, then, that's to March 31, 2020? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Everyone is nodding.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

So what is the plan to deal with this deficit? I don't blame anybody in this room for that. This is an issue of chronic under-funding of our healthcare system. Is there a plan to deal with this deficit over the long term? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. That is the intent. We are going back to the health authorities to ask them to come back with a debt recovery plan, and we are hoping that some of the reviews that we're doing and some of the things that we're doing right now can help reduce some of the deficit. That is the plan with all the different health authorities, is to go back and come back to our department with a debt recovery plan. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair, and thanks to the Minister. I guess I'll be kind of clear here. I don't want the deficit done on the backs of our citizens. I don't want to see people lined up in the hallways waiting for healthcare and so on. The idea of health system transformation is that we could find some efficiencies. I'm all for efficiencies, but I just don't know how the health authority can make up this kind of deficit over a short period of time. We need more money spent on healthcare. We all know that, and I don't know whether there are opportunities to get money from the federal government or wherever. Can the Minister just talk a little bit more about where the expectation is that these funds are going to be found? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister.