Thank you, Madam Chair. We are very hampered, at times, with our ability to be able to just go and purchase fuel when it is at its cheapest. That would be due to things, like I said, like storage capacity, as well. We have very specific times in which we need to be able to do our resupply. It does make a bit of a difference about when we can go ahead and purchase that fuel. As for your other questions about how much analysis has been done and whether or not alternate routes have been explored, I would have to come back to you with that information. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Member for Hay River South.

I'm good.

Any other questions on Petroleum Products Revolving Act? If not, moving on to Marine Transport Service Revolving Fund, and I will give the floor to the Member for Deh Cho.

Did we switch pages already? Okay. Getting back to my question, we have a resupply down the Mackenzie Valley for the Mackenzie Valley communities that don't have the road system in the summer months. I know that they are being serviced from the Hay River port with the tugs and barges. The Beaufort-Delta, which is up in the Arctic Ocean communities, my question there was: are they being resupplied from the port in Inuvik? I'm wondering the frequency of the deliveries during the summer months, whether we're increasing in the resupply and the resupply of cargo. I guess I'll start with those ones. Mahsi.

Thank you, Member for Deh Cho. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I don't know, specifically, myself, off the top of my head whether or not the resupply of the Beaufort-Delta is from the ocean or whether it's up the Mackenzie. I believe it's up the Mackenzie, but I'm going to ask Dr. Dragon to clarify.

Thank you, Minister. Dr. Dragon.

Thank you, Dr. Dragon. Member for Deh Cho.

Thanks for that. To me, it seems like it's quite the long trip up the Mackenzie River. There are lots of hours in there, and there is a lot of fuel being burned. I thought we may have learned our lessons from, was it the 2018 fiasco with the fuel resupply? There were lots of comments that it's probably more prudent to have a resupply set setup in Inuvik to supply the Beaufort-Delta communities for fuel and cargo. I'm wondering what the department's thoughts are on that. Mahsi.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Within the department we are always looking to better optimise our services. I know that the opening of the Arctic Ocean, the Arctic passage is a relatively new thing. There are concerns about shipping through the Arctic, as well. It's definitely something that I know we'll be looking at going forward, and we note the Member's comments. As well, with my other hat on, it's not that department, but ITI is exploring LNG and such within the Beaufort-Delta. My hope is, one day, we will not be sending fuel up the Mackenzie to the Beaufort-Delta. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Member for Deh Cho.

I look forward to that report tomorrow.

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Okay. We'll leave that there. It's in the capable hands of the Minister and her staff. That's something I would really, really want to have considered. It saves a lot of wear and tear and everything all around. It could be beneficial in savings in the future. The Marine Training Centre, I'm not sure if that one is in Fort Smith or Hay River. I'm wondering if it's being used to full capacity with people from the North, and if not, would we look at accepting students from the South? That's all I have on that one, Mahsi.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Marine Training Centre is in Hay River. It's that one there. I just wanted to state that we're not training at the moment because of the COVID situation. It is a training centre for Northerners to create jobs and economic opportunities to support our fisheries and our economic diversification. We've had about 840 various certificate courses offered there in Hay River, Inuvik, and Tuktoyaktuk. Two hundred and fifty-eight students attended the courses in 2018-2019. Five programs had begun as of September 1, 2019, before we had COVID. Approximately 500 Transport Canada certificates have been issued and 350 other certificates, such as those issued by Industry Canada. During the 2019 sailing, six graduates took deckhand positions with the MTS tugboats, four on the operational tugboats and two on the Hay River. Four graduates also took work on the MTS supported Arctic Research Foundation vessel operation on Great Slave. We've had four graduates join the coast guard. Two graduates working on the local ships and two had an opportunity to sail on the ice breakers. At this time, I believe, the centre has actually been doing fairly well from an enrollment standpoint. However, if we were to find that we weren't having Northerners taking those positions I don't see why we wouldn't offer that opportunity to Southerners. That always gets us more people in the North and perhaps they stay, and we get more transfer payments. Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Member for Deh Cho.

No further questions.

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

Thank you, Madam Chair. The first question I have is with respect to the charters. I noticed that, in 2018-2019, we had a revenue of just over $1 million with expenses of around $1.2 million. Now, in 2020-2021 estimates, we're looking at a revenue of $200,000, and we're looking at charter costs of $422,000. Can you explain to me that difference and maybe give a little background on the charters? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I think I'll pass this over to Mr. Brennan to answer. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Brennan.