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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Seated with me is Mr. Michael Reddy. He is the director of the Legislation Division.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Welcome, Mr. Reddy. I will now open the floor to general comments on Bill 10. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. Can I just get a little more explanation of what types of orders we are anticipating to see under this, and do we have any already drafted or ready to go? Just kind of a sense of it, a little more detail on what we can expect to see this power used for. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Minister of Justice.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I know the department has already done some work to ensure that a draft is ready to go, but more to the point, I think, of the Member's question, the intent really is, if there is a deadline, for example, the Insurance Act provides a specific set deadline of June 30th and we are concerned that there will be occasions when that deadline can't be met, the orders will, in fact, then set a different or alternative deadline that is beyond that point. That is really the goal and the purpose of it. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I also note that the bill has the ability to be retroactive. We've seen licence deadlines extended. We've seen a number of kinds of deadlines that we've already missed, so can I just get a sense of what deadlines have already passed that we anticipate creating retroactive orders for? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Minister of Justice.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. By way of some example, the Business Licence Act required business licences to be renewed by March 31st. So that deadline has, indeed, passed. Similarly, collection agency licences expired on March 31st, so that deadline has passed; and there are a number of government agencies that were required to file reports, often, also by March 31st, and some of those deadlines have passed. I'm not sure to what extent the Members may want me to run through a complete list, or if that gives a good sample. I'm happy to go through a few more examples, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

No, thank you, Madam Chair, that's fine. As the order requires, I look forward to seeing all of those deadlines in an order provided to Standing Committee. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Any further questions, Member for Yellowknife North? No. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I guess I have a similar question as my colleague from Yellowknife North. Can the Minister just get a little bit more specific about what kind of time periods we're actually talking about here? Some more examples would be really helpful. Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister of Justice.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. The person with more specifics would be the witness that I am lucky to have with me today, so if I could turn it over to Mr. Reddy, please.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Reddy.

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Reddy

Thank you, Madam Chair. Keeping in mind my first job as a legislative drafter, but by virtue of being in that position, I have learned a lot from departments in terms of some of the timelines that they're running up against over the last little while. I don't profess to be an expert, but I'll share the information that I have.

With respect to the business licence example that the Minister spoke of, as well as the insurance renewal example that the Minister spoke of, my understanding is that businesses, effectively, were looking for a couple of extra months to ensure that they get all their paperwork in order. In the example of business licences, I believe the new deadline would be somewhere around July 1st, the middle of July. Likewise, with the insurance deadline, that would be extended by about two months as well.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Mr. Reddy. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I guess maybe I will paraphrase what I think I heard in some plainer language, but I want to thank our witness for saying that. As I understand it, this bill really is about ensuring business continuity so that businesses, small businesses in particular, can continue to operate if they have licences or permits or things that have expired. It could also be used to extend appointments for boards where they might lose quorum. Appointments, that kind of thing, and maybe places where individuals could be severely inconvenienced if a driver's licence expires. They need to travel in another jurisdiction. They don't have valid ID. Are those the kinds of examples of things that this government would expect to use this authority for? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister of Justice.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Those are all perfect examples. That is exactly the nature of what is being contemplated here. If you sense any kind of reluctance to provide a long laundry list, it's only because, frankly, we don't have the complete list necessarily. A lot of staff are really only getting back into their offices in a more regularized fashion. The examples that I think we've given here from the table, as well as what's been noted by the Member, are all very good examples and exactly the type of thing that's at issue here.

Really, as we begin to move from a more emergency stage and to, perhaps, a bit of a clean-up stage is when we would expect to be identifying precisely how far. Do we need 30 extra days? Do we need 60 extra days, et cetera? Some of that is just ensuring that all departments have that ability to come forward, request the order, and go through this process, but it is exactly in line with the kinds of procedural and timeline or appointment or et cetera related requests that we're making. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I'm asking a few questions that I actually know the answers to, just so that the public might have a better understanding of where we're going, and why we are doing this. How long would the authority to make these temporary variations or extensions, how long would that stay in place? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister of Justice.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. It is six months from the time of this Act, Madam Chair, and there is no intention to hopefully be in a position to have to renew it beyond that point. Thank you, Madam Chair.