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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I am definitely interested to see that, and I am definitely interested to work with the Minister on that, because I think, if we're going to put this kind of money out into the business community of the Northwest Territories, then it would be great for it to stick around and the people of the Northwest Territories to see the benefit of it.

Another concern that I have had coming out of the business community, especially right now within COVID, is that people are filling out a lot of applications right now for business supports. Some of them are to the federal government, some of them are to CanNor, some of them are to BDIC, and then some of them are to our department. Some of the frustration is that some people just don't know where they belong. If they get a denial from here or from there, it can be very frustrating to people just to be unsure where they can fit. Can I get a commitment from the Minister to have more of a triage type of a system, almost like a support navigator, where people will work with business owners that contact ITI in order to help them figure out where they fit? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. It is my understanding that the SEED application isn't quite so bad as, perhaps, some of the federal requirements are, but having not applied for SEED funding myself, I will go and ensure that that is the case. We do have the regional offices to act as pathfinders. We offer that always through ITI. We have been encouraging people to reach out to the regional office if they are having trouble with any sorts of applications. I believe that we have also been offering that help even on federal programs or navigating programs that are not our own. I do recognize that the offices and staff are quite busy right now. If people are finding that they're falling through the cracks or they are not getting a response, I had offered out prior, and I offer it out again, that I am more than willing to advocate for people if they are more than willing to reach out to me. I see my DM is kind of smiling at that.

Another part is that we are also reviewing any of the denied applications, both, I believe, with the BDIC and SEED, so that we can ensure that it hasn't been a matter of some T not being crossed or some I not being dotted that people are losing the funding. That is not our intent. We do encourage, if anybody has been denied or needs further help, that they do reach out to either myself and my staff or through the department.

Also, I will say that the federal government does have a pathfinder line as well. Again, I won't profess to know how well the federal government's navigational supports are, but I would encourage people to do that. Like I said, the staff are there to help. If people are finding that they are not getting help from the staff, please encourage them to come to me. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I would like to just shift streams a little bit here over to page 202. I think that the Northwest Territories' Nominee Program falls under that. Can you explain how we make money off the nomination program and how we spend money off the nomination program, please?

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. I think this is one that I am going to pass over to -- I don't see anybody raising their hands -- Ms. St-Denis. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Ms. St-Denis.

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St-Denis

Thank you, Madam Chair. We do accept application fees when applications are received, and then we have staff who are actually part of our staffing complement who work on those applications. At this point in time, we do have some applications that are in their final stages. As far as intake right now, we are on a bit of a pause, because phase 2 requires a face-to-face meeting. In the current COVID situation, we do have a pause on phase 2.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Ms. St-Denis. Member.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thanks very much, Madam Chair. I am just curious; if somebody decides that they want to move to the Northwest Territories and start a business, is there any kind of rule that stipulates what kind of business they can come here to start? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would imagine that we are looking at some things such as competitiveness and such, but I think I will ask Ms. St-Denis to answer this question.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Ms. St-Denis.

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St-Denis

Thank you, Madam Chair. Part of the nominee program is about being an entrepreneur and having that entrepreneurial spirit. We have definitely seen an increase in applications in the South Slave, specifically Hay River, where we have seen a variety of service companies being started. There may have been a few that are both in the restaurant business, but they would be different types of restaurants or different types of service companies. I think, as a government, we want to try to be open-minded about what those businesses and those businesspeople are interested in coming to provide to the territory. We are, of course, always open to talk about opportunities outside of Yellowknife, and I think that we have been very successful in the South Slave. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. I will move on now to the Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would like to start off with the BDIC and the development component of the BDIC. To my knowledge, since the amalgamation of the lending side and the development side, the development side has really done nothing. In the past, they have joint ventured with, say, the Fort McPherson Tent and Canvas, Dene Fur Clouds, and Acho Dene, I think, Crafts, as well.

I guess, unlike my colleague from Yellowknife North, I know that these partnerships have a positive impact on the residents, even though they operate at a loss. I think that it is important that we realize that, in the smaller communities where there is nothing, we have to have something. It allows people to earn some extra money. It allows people, also, to practise, I guess, a way of life in creating the arts, for instance. I would like to see that development side to look at expanding and doing something, whether it's with respect to the fishery. It could be with artisans. Tannery is another thing that we've talked about. I know that many artisans can't find moose hide, for instance, and it's tough. There's things that we could do with it, and I think we have to realize that, in the North, we're either paying out the money to ECE or we're allowing people to make a bit of a living with it, and I think this development side of the corporation is something that we need to expand on. I'd just like to hear some comments on how you feel about that. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. It's my understanding that, when a new Minister comes in, that that Minister has those conversations with the different groups or organizations within their departments and tells them how they want to see things go. Without speaking for the prior Minister, I think there was a focus on banking. That is what I have heard, more the lending side of things. However, I would believe that, with our new government and our conversation about how dollars are a lot more complex than just what you see going across that ledger and instead, in fact, have all those benefits of which you spoke about; we pay for it here or we pay for it in Minister Simpson's department. With that being said, my goal is to develop more than to be just a lender. I would like to see the BDIC used to create sustainable business. I don't want them to stay dependent on us, and I do want them to be successful, but, yes, I do agree that we need to be investing in areas where perhaps a bank is going to look at that and say, "That's not something we would do," but we know the North is different, and we know we operate differently, so, yes, I would say that I'm very committed to seeing the developing side go forward. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

I'm pleased to hear that. I guess I just want to turn to fisheries, commercial fisheries. With respect to the freight costs, what's the criteria for fishers to access this fund, and how is it divvied up? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

I'm looking through my thousand pages here. Actually, I think I will just pass this one over to Ms. St-Denis because I'm sure she has that knowledge on hand, and I won't waste your time looking through my papers. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Ms. St-Denis.