Thank you. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, every year this is ongoing funding. So I mean, this year it's $1.9 million, as Mr. Moore mentioned. It just continues to upgrade. Next year it's going to be $2 million. The year after, maybe -- and -- and the numbers go on.

So this is an ongoing cost for the infrastructure ever-greening. We're not planning to replace it. The -- I think the plan is to just continue to upgrade. And this is also network infrastructure for all communities. Thank you.

Thank you. Member.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, one of the specific questions I want to get to is we're spending about $2 million a year here. The federal treasury board just passed a cloud first policy noting that cloud based is a lot cheaper than having servers. I'm not really sure that the GNWT needs to have servers. I know many governments have moved away.

Have we done that analysis of keeping our capital server versus moving to a cloud based system and how much it would cost us. Thank you.

Thank you. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I don't know the number offhand. We've done that analysis, but not ready yet is kind of where I'm going. But if I want -- if I can get deputy minister Moore to speak more specifically to it.

Mr. Moore.

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, and I get that much of this probably also goes to finance and the Chief Information Cfficer. I always found it odd how much of the TSC, it still flies infrastructure. I think probably putting the hardware with the software people makes sense.

I guess I'm looking for a bigger commitment that that analysis can be provided to committee. The federal government just did this, and they saved hundreds and millions of dollars in moving to cloud based. That's why the treasury board ordered all departments do it. It's very expensive to maintain servers. I think we can manage the security risks. So I think this is a potential area we're spending millions of dollars a year on, and there's a potential to save it.

So I would ask that the Minister share that analysis with committee on changing to a cloud based server. Thank you.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

I think -- thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, it's something we can look at. I'm not going to commitment to sharing it. But I do want to kind of fully understand what that means first before we go off and share information on TSC. So thank you.

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North, did you have any further questions? Nothing. All right. Are there any further questions on programs and services? All right. Seeing none. Infrastructure, programs and services, infrastructure investment, $89,168,000. Does committee agree?

Thank you. Members, please return now to the Departmental Summary found on page 46, 2022-2023 Capital Estimates, $299,381,000. Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks, Madam Chair. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the estimates for the Department of Infrastructure at this time. Thank you, Madam Chair.

The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favor. All those opposed. Motion is carried.

---Carried.

And we will defer the further consideration of Department of Infrastructure later.

We are going to now break, and we will come back with the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses out, and thank you.

---Recess

Committee, we've agreed that we are now going to consider the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. Does the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment wish to bring in witnesses?

Yes, I do.

Thank you. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber.

Minister, please introduce your witnesses.

Thank you, Madam Chair. To your right is Deputy Minister John MacDonald. And on your left, is assistant deputy minister Sam Shannon. And being a former Chair of Committee of the Whole, I know that you need some time to write the names down so that's why I was going slow for you.

All right. Committee has agreed to forego general comments. Has Committee agreed to proceed to the detail in the Tabled Document?