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Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will get ADM Brennan to answer that.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Brennan.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Brennan

Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. I think the simple answer is yes. We would expect that it would increase over time as we add more assets to the system. The exercise we are undertaking right now is to look at our existing assets and looking at our existing regulations and then to try to come up with an engineering estimate to determine how much cost it would take currently to remediate. Given things usually cost more money in the future than they do today, I would expect that it would increase on an annual basis, if we are doing our jobs correctly and coming up with that number. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Great Slave.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. Then I would anticipate that the Minister will then be directing her department to look and deal with more risk or higher risk-level assets ahead of lower risk ones and that some sort of prioritization like that, like a lens like that, will be put on this analysis? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. We currently have what we call a dashboard. It kind of looks at all of our different assets, and we have a red, which basically means that these assets, we need to get them started. Then we have a yellow, and then we have a green. We have different colour coding on our dashboard to be able to look at all of the different assets that are required through the Northwest Territories in terms of our capital assets, so we do have a dashboard to be able to help us to determine what are priority assets and such. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Great Slave.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm really glad to hear that. It's going to be quite an undertaking for the department. I'm not sad I'll be missing it. I think the next question I have is around the Preventative Maintenance Program. Given that we have assets that have become worse over time, I'd like to talk about where the money falls within this department or this line item or these line items for the Preventative Maintenance Program so we can keep our assets in better shape. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am going to hand it to ADM Brennan. Thank you.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Brennan.

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Brennan

Thank you, Madam Chair. I think there are a couple of different places where we have money in our budget currently. Under asset management, as previously mentioned, there is $3 million for the Deferred Maintenance Program, but also, there is money in regional operations, as well, that each region has to do minor fixes to help upkeep of all the GNWT assets in the system. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Mr. Brennan. Member for Great Slave.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would just like the Minister to maybe speak a bit on optimization of these types of programs. Is the department looking at policy and procedural implementation, such as, for example, drivers' logs, inspection records, safety programs like that that actually have been shown to reduce maintenance costs, et cetera? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. We do have a couple of different programs within the department. I talked a little bit about the Deferred Maintenance Program. That is intended for completing repairs to buildings. I already mentioned that in the Member's first answer. We also do have the different priorities. We have the status of Department of Infrastructure-managed and client-managed capital projects. We have a number of programs here that we look at. As things change and as things evolve and as we start to complete programs and start up new programs and new infrastructure assets, we start to look at what we can do better as a department to ensure that we are following some of the standards and some of the updated licensing. You look within the federal government and all the different policy changes. Transport Canada just made a new change that really impacts our operations in some of the airports going forward. It's a case-by-case basis, and I think we just need to keep on top of them and just adjust as we need to. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Great Slave.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you for that. I'll continue to follow up with the Minister on that at a future time. I'm just looking at the line item for transportation. Can the Minister speak to the 2019-2020 actual of $6 million versus the $3.7 or $3.8 million that has been the usual forecast? Is that a COVID-related expense? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Can I ask the Member what page she is referring to?

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Page 236, the $6 million in the 2019 actuals, the transportation line.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to get ADM Brennan to find that. Thank you.

Committee Motion 81-19(2): Tabled Document 286-19(2): Main Estimates 2021-2022 - Health and Social Services - Deferral of Department (page 169), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Brennan.

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Brennan

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes. The difference there is about $2.2 million, and that's basically made up of about $1.2 million of incremental salaries that we spent on capital projects whereby the spending didn't meet the requirements of a federal funding agreement. We have worked on some bridges historically. Normally, we pay for that out of the capital, but because they never met the capital guidelines, it gets written up into the O and M. Then there was another couple of hundred thousand that was spent related to the Mackenzie Valley Fibre Link that we never had in our budget for. Thank you, Madam Chair.