Thank you, Deputy Minister. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Member for Great Slave.

Thank you, Madam Chair. That was the question I was also going to ask: where was the education and Internet access? Thanks to my colleague for asking that. It is my understanding that we are looking at all of these back pages? Okay. Thank you. My question is around the Marine Transportation Services Revolving Fund on page 259. I am looking at the marine freight transport and charters, the revenues section. We have nothing estimated for revenues for charters for the upcoming year. Can the Minister or the department speak to whether or not we think we are going to do any charter loads this year? Thank you.

Thank you, Member. Minister of Infrastructure.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I totally have the wrong package here. I apologize for that. In that case, I am going to ask ADM Brennan to answer.

Mr. Brennan.

Thank you, Mr. Brennan. Member for Great Slave.

Thank you, Madam Chair. With that being said, perhaps things are maybe not quite so drastic as they may have gone. Does the department anticipate that we would see any revenues from charters in the upcoming year? Thank you, Madam Chair.

I am just going to take a minute or so break, just to give the Minister a few minutes.

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I'll call Committee back to order. Thank you for the short little break. Just because of the way our restrictions are with not allowing so many witnesses into the Chamber at once, we've been switching out the Minister's witnesses. Some of the information items may not have the right witness in here. What we can do is: if it's not the right, then we can just check to clarify with the Minister first before we move along, and if you have ones that are with the Minister's witnesses who are in here, then the Minister can just get the information back to the Members on their questions, if it's not the right witness. How does that sound?

Good. Moving forward, we will continue on now. I'm going to go back to the Member for Great Slave.

I'm going to re-ask my question, then. I asked: do we anticipate we will have any charters in the upcoming year? Thank you.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll pass that over to ADM Brennan.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Brennan.

Thank you. Member for Great Slave.

Thank you. Just to confirm, that being the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the upcoming one? Okay. When I look at the charter costs for the 2019-2020 actuals, we lose money on the charters. Is the department looking at, perhaps, re-evaluating, as part of the governance model evaluation, whether or not MTS should be doing charters in the first place? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I think I've got some of my papers figured out here. I want to reference that charters are the leasing of a vessel for use. Daily rates are charged for the vessel as well as personal costs. The Member did mention that we will be doing a governance review of MTS, and I think that's important to note whether we continue to do the work that we're doing, filling our 16 communities with transportation fuel. What's the cost benefit, and do we make money or not in doing some of our charters? That is part of the governance review when we're looking at some of the costs for charters and whether we do make money or not and is it the best use of our vessels and our time. Thank you, Madam Chair.