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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes. Thank you again for that response. I will just leave this with a comment. In our committees, we say our morning prayers and stuff. I always say we should say prayers for people, our staff, and our public servants who put themselves in harm's way. This is one of them. I have done it myself. It's a dangerous job, and people just do not realize corrections does not stop. It's a 24/7 operation. You always have to be alert. You always have to be in it all the time. Like I said, like my colleague from Thebacha said, you have to look out for each other and work as a team. I think this is one of those ones that do that. Again, good job, and I wanted to say I am thankful for those guys, for that crew. Like I said, I have been there before. I am going to leave that as a comment. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Any further comments, questions? Seeing none, please turn to page 279. Justice, corrections, operations expenditure summary, 2021-2022 Main Estimates, $38,574,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. We will now move to court services, beginning on page 282, with information items on 284. Questions for court services? No questions for court services? Seeing no questions for court services, please turn to page 283. Court services, operations expenditure summary, 2021-2022 Main Estimates, $14,759,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, committee. Committee, please turn to legal aid services, beginning on page 285, with information items on 287. Legal aid services. Member for Great Slave.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am looking at page 286, at the Office of the Children's Lawyer, just noting, that this is an item that would be very difficult to predict each year how much would be spent here. Having had friends who have used this service, I was told it was actually extremely helpful and very worthwhile and rewarding, so I am just wondering if there is a need or the potential to fund this area more. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. When the office was first set up, there was an estimated number of cases that it would be dealing with, and it was budgeted accordingly. It turns out that, in reality, it deals with significantly more cases, and so there is a proposed increase of $99,000 to cover the increased costs associated with that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Great Slave.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. Does the department have any idea or indication: do we think that this is going to rise and that we would be looking to put more money there? I am looking: here, it's another $100,000 over last year's estimates. However, would it not make more sense to put more money there now in the event that they do need it as it is something that I don't think we would just not fund? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. I agree that it's probably not something we would just not fund, but based on our experiences, the $99,000 should be sufficient to cover the costs that we expect in the coming year. It is based on experience, whereas the first number was really based on a guess. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Great Slave.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. That gives me more confidence than other times in other departments where it was like, "Well, we have just put this number there," so I am glad to hear it's a good solid estimate. I am just looking at the legal aid clinics and the Legal Aid Commission, and I would assume that the legal aid clinics is the line item, the $3.2 million, that covers the actual provision of legal aid services to residents. What mechanism do people have to go back if they should have found that they were not given good legal aid services or advice? Is there a mechanism for them to then recoup that or have some help further with the subsequent costs that they incurred as a result? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. My deputy minister has some experience with legal aid. Perhaps she can take this. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy Minister.

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Doolittle

Thank you, Madam Chair. There are appeals processes, appeals that clients can take to the commission, and the commission will hear those appeals and make an appropriate decision. That is the monetary aspect. If clients are not satisfied with their services, there are mechanisms, as well, with the law society where they can raise those concerns. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Deputy Minister. Member.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am just looking at the court workers line item and noting that we do have the actuals for 2019-2020. We are at $894,000 but have gone up now in the last two years to $1.24 million on page 286. Maybe could the Minister speak to what that increase reflects, and is that just more positions within the court and maybe where those positions lie? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. For some of the variation between the 2019-2020 actuals and the current budget, I can ask Ms. Bolstad. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Bolstad.