This is page numbers 2383 - 2438 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was work.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. In regards to the work, we're very capable of doing it. It's a discussion that we've had, but for further detail with your permission, I'll turn to the deputy minister. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy Minister Kelly.

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Kelly

Thank you, Madam Chair. While policy, legislation, and communications provides a support function for legislated development, the majority of the work is done within the divisions by forest management, for example, for the Forest Act or by the conservation group for regulations related to Thaidene Nene and Tu'eyeta, the Waters Act would be the water monitoring and management division, et cetera. There is a lot of capacity within the divisions, and they are supported well by the staff that we do have in the policy, legislation, and communications division. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. Just in case anybody gets the wrong idea here, I am not saying that staff are not capable of doing the work. I know that they work very, very hard, and we saw that in the 18th Assembly. I just don't want to kill them with the work like we almost did with what we put onto them at the end of the 18th Assembly.

On Friday of last week, I can't even remember what day it is anymore, we reviewed the ITI budget, and they had over half a million dollars for a new unit that they had created for implementation of the Mineral Resources Act alone. It was $360,000 if they could contract work out with, and then they had moved a couple of staff people in there to develop regulations. I'm just astounded that we have one department that takes that approach and other departments don't do the same thing. I know that these folks at ENR work very, very hard, but I am worried that they don't get the support that they need to get the work done. Why has the Minister not gone to the FMB to get more resources so that they can get the work done in a timely fashion? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. I thank the Member for his passion, and I appreciate the good words he says about ENR. When we talked about this and we looked at our budget and we looked at what our legislation is going to be and our requirements, we feel presently that we can do the work with the different divisions within the department. We are able to achieve that. If we need to, I will not hesitate to come back and ask for more money if we require it, but right now, we feel comfortable that we are able to achieve it in a timely manner within our existing budgets presently. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I appreciate the Minister saying that. I pleaded with the previous Minister in the last Assembly to get more resources to get the work done, and I continue to do that. I will probably be here a year from now asking the same question. I want to move on to the Community Harvester Assistance Program. I think this is the place to talk about this. It's kind of hard to know. That program is very effective in terms of building food security. It gets people out on the land doing stuff that they like, and it hasn't been increased for a number of years. We had understood that it was under review. What's the status of the program, and when is there going to be some more money? Is there any new money in this budget for the Community Harvester Assistance Program? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. Before I turn, with your permission, to the deputy minister, we made a commitment to evaluate that. We are in the process of doing that, and we are working on it. We do have a variety of other programs out there on top of CHAP, but I will turn to the deputy minister for details in regard to CHAP. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy Minister Kelly.

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Kelly

Thank you, Madam Chair. The review of the CHAP program has begun. I think it's important to recognize that there are a number of programs, not just CHAP, that ENR provides to support this type of activity, and when we went out and did the engagement to develop the Sustainable Livelihoods Action Plan, there were some concerns that were brought forward related to how that program money was being distributed in communities.

We really want to make sure that we are being as effective as possible and learning what we need to and making sure that those who need the funding are able to access it. We are going to do the review, and based on the outcomes of the review and the other program work that we are doing, we will make a determination of whether there is enough funding or not. We look forward to pulling that information together in the next four months and being able to make some recommendations based on the review. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I recognize there's a pandemic going on, but I asked these questions a year ago because we wanted to try to increase the CHAP funding at that point. Has this review been delayed? When is the Minister going to be in a position where he can share a copy of the evaluation with standing committee? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. For that detail, I will turn to the deputy minister. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy Minister Kelly.

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Kelly

Thank you, Madam Chair. This program requires that we speak to the people who are accessing it, and many of the communities post-COVID were not comfortable with those types of meetings and discussions occurring. We are now in a place where we have been able to revamp the program so that we have opportunities digitally but also where communities can meet internally and provide answers to the questions that have been provided. As I mentioned, we are hoping to have a "what we heard" completed with recommendations within the next four months. We recognize the importance of this program, not only to Members of the Legislative Assembly, but also to the residents of the Northwest Territories. That's why we need to make sure that we are doing it right and that there are points where those in communities who are land users and who are harvesters have the ability to provide input into the program review. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. We will make that commitment to get that to committee. We will get that "what we heard" report so the committee is well aware of what we are doing. It's not going to be a hidden document. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Any other questions from committee? Member for Great Slave.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will just look at page 74. I am looking at the disaster compensation line of just $15,000. The actuals in 2019 were only $4,000. Obviously, that would be one that, I am sure, is dependent on what happens in that year. Given the situation that's happened with the high water levels this past year and potential for this situation to occur in the upcoming years, do we anticipate that we are going to actually see more money needed here, or does the department think that any compensation that we provide will come under federal funding? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.