Madam Chair, one further correction in the same vein, I move that Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 be amended by changing under "Industry, Tourism and Investment, Minerals and Petroleum Resources Activity, not previously authorized", to negative $118,000. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
In the Legislative Assembly on June 3rd, 2021. See this topic in context.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Question.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Abstentions? Motion is carried.
---Carried
We will now go back to Supplementary Estimates No 1, (Operations Expenditures), 2021-2022, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, for the department of economic diversification and business support, not previously authorized, $452,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you. The next one we'll go back to is Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No 1, 2021-2022, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, mineral and petroleum resources, not previously authorized, negative $118,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you. Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No 1, 2021-2022, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, tourism and parks, not previously authorized, $5,622,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you. Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No 1, 2020 -- 2021-2022, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, total department, not previously authorized, $5,880,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Committee, we will now consider the Department of Infrastructure on page 13.
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Infrastructure, asset management, not previously authorized, negative $74,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Infrastructure, corporate management, not previously authorized, negative $10,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Infrastructure, energy, and strategic initiatives, not previously authorized, negative $113,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Infrastructure, programs and services, not previously authorized, $1,051,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), Number 1, 2021-2022, Department of Infrastructure, regional operations, not previously authorized, $464,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Infrastructure, total department, not previously authorized, $1,313,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), Number 1, 2021-2022, Department of Infrastructure, total department, not previously authorized, $1,318,000.
You agree? Okay.
---Laughter
Committee, we will now consider the Department of Justice on page 14.
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Justice, community justice and policing, not previously authorized, negative $23,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Justice, corrections, not previously authorized, negative $43,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Justice, Office of the Regulator of Oil and Gas Operations, not previously authorized, negative $2,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Justice, services of government, not previously authorized, negative $75,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Justice, services to the public, not previously authorized, negative $17,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Justice, total department, not previously authorized, negative $160,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Committee, we will now consider Department of Lands on page 15.
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No 1, 2021-2022, Department of Lands, Corporate Management, not previously authorized, negative $21,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Lands, Operations, not previously authorized, negative $8,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Lands, planning and coordination, not previously authorized, negative $76,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Lands, total department, not previously authorized, negative $105,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Committee, we will now consider the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs on page 16.
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, community governance, not previously authorized, negative $17,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, community operations, not previously authorized, negative $66,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, directorate, not previously authorized, negative $50,000. Does committee agree?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, public safety, not previously authorized, $4,952,000.
Member for Frame Lake.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Madam Chair. Can someone explain to me the $5 million line here for flood relief; how was that figure picked? Thanks, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the five million is really an initial figure right now to support the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and, more specifically, the disaster assistance committees that have been set up to go in and to provide, firstly, the emergency services and emergency supports that have already been offered. So in terms of the costs of conducting the evacuations, the cost of providing shelter and food for evacuees, you know, cots, fans, camping equipment, supplies, again, food, and various other supplies in a real emergency moment. So I understand the costs in that regard are already upward of -- well, pushing $3 million. So this helps provide some liquidity to the department as they've already incurred those costs.
There's obviously a recognition that there's going to be some relief that needs to take place immediately and in the coming months. And so putting it to five million gives, again, that cushion for that initial needs and then some room to undertake the costs that will be incurred in the next while. It's fully anticipated, and there's already a coding, a financial coding being made available so that all of the costs associated with flood relief and recovery, including the emergency and ongoing will be recovered -- I'm sorry, not recovered but will be tracked so that we can provide a sense of what the total value is over time. I think there's probably a very likely chance that we'll be back in front of the House to seek some additional appropriation in this regard in the fall. But this, again, allows this response to move forward for the moment. Thank you.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. Is any of this earmarked in any way for some kind of a program fund that's going to get money into people's pockets immediately on a non-reimbursement basis? Thanks, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. So, Madam Chair, the process that would be followed through the disaster assistance committee is that individuals have the opportunity -- members of the community have opportunity to make their application, make it known, list out what items it is that they may have lost and, you know, what damage they may have incurred. And while there's no necessarily -- you don't necessarily have to be bringing in a receipt to do that. Essentially you're writing out a list of what you believe your losses or damages to be. The caveat or the kind of note that I'd make with that, though, is that if you're doing that in advance and you're submitting this list without receipts, without having, you know, necessarily incurred those costs at the front end, you do take the risk that they may not in the end say okay, that every single item you've claim for can in fact be covered. But, you know, again, if people are being conscientious, as I'm sure they will be in looking at their losses and keeping in mind, you know, then, you know, that there is that caveat there and this would certainly provide the opportunity that when they need to go in and get some real essential items, you know, you can do your own sense of it but the risk would be, to me, if they're essential items, you're much more likely to see them ultimately covered once the entire process is underway. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Madam Chair. I think that was a two-minute 'no'. Look, I've got only six minutes left on the clock. We've got about 15 minutes left in the Chamber. This is probably the most important thing we're going talk about today, and we're getting a lot of complaints. I'm getting complaints, as a Yellowknife MLA, that there's no way to get the money into people's pockets right now.
I've looked at the application form for the disaster assistance policy and it's, I think, six, eight pages. It's English. If your first language is English -- or you don't read or write English, you may be out of luck. I'm not sure that this is going to be very helpful for elders. And it's really for damaged property. It does not cover people's immediate needs for food, accommodation, you know, whatever -- and I understand that some of those costs may be covered already through municipal governments doing -- and MACA doing things, but we're getting contacted about people needing immediate assistance right now - money in their pockets. And I guess I've heard that not one cent of this money is allocated for that purpose. So what are we going to do to fix this? That's what I think I need to hear. Thanks, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Madam Chair, that's not accurate. The $5 million is for flood relief. It's for flood relief in the communities, for small businesses, for individuals, for residents, tenants, homeowners. It is just -- it's how, indeed, now it does get rolled out is, I think, really where the question is, but that is exactly its purpose, is to support all of those individuals who are in the flood-affected communities. And the application process is one that allows it to operate through the disaster assistance policy that has been in place for, you know, years. It is the one -- the same that has been employed on previous occasions. And so it's a system that exists, a system that works. It allow us to, you know, get -- be organized and structured in how the funds are being distributed and equitable and how the funds are being distributed and to make sure that there is a process in place for that.
So, yeah, there is an application form. It's a form where you essentially start out by writing down your contact information and then you describe your damaged property and the items it is that you feel that you need to have replaced.
So there are now two navigators that are in the flood-affected communities in the South Slave. Those individuals are certainly well placed to assist any individual that needs the assistance. But I know that the Department of MACA has previously put out a Q and A saying that, you know, you don't need to wait for a MACA employee, you can go to any senior GNWT employee. They will be able to help filling out these forms and move this process forward so that people can begin to apply for funds. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Madam Chair, okay. I've looked at this form. This is for reimbursement. This is not money in people's pockets, some kind of an advance right now. What are we going to do to fix this problem? I'm sorry, I do not want the Minister running out the clock for another two minutes on me, please. Thank you.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Madam Chair, I'm gonna be in a difficult situation to describe a program in two minutes and 50 seconds. So as I've committed to in the opening session and the opening statements, at this point there's a recognition that there are individuals who are not currently receiving supports through the evacuation program, who may not be on income assistance, who's already handed out additional $1,000 to families and $500 to individuals, or who aren't receiving the hampers that are being handed out for food. So if in fact that does continue to be the case, I know we are all very concerned about there being an availability of funds immediately, that this $5 million, as I said in my opening statement, the Departments of Finance and Municipal and Community Affairs are going to work on a process to ensure that these $5 million, and that this process, is putting those dollars into people's hands immediately. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Madam Chair. I'm going to switch topics slightly. I do not consider this to be resolved and this -- okay, two issues: Who's going to help people fill out this form? The two navigators are floating around in the communities. They're there for a couple of days, then they're going on down the valley. Those navigators are not going to be there helping people fill out these forms. Who's going to help them -- people, elders who may not speak any English fill out these forms? Thanks, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. The navigators are the first point of contact but they're not the last point of contact. Madam Chair, there are government staff and government employees in all of these communities. There are senior members from various departments who have been on the front lines from day one, and they will continue to be there. And if direction simply needs to be given to them to say, you know, you will acting outside of your specific department, I fully expect that, in fact, they've already been doing that as part of their role within the disaster assistance policy and its enactment. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Madam Chair. I just don't consider this to be resolved. I would like to know whether the Minister is prepared to ensure that there's monthly reporting of the expenditures of this $5 million similar to what's happening for the COVID Secretariat. Thanks, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Madam Chair. I appreciate that work's been done through income assistance to get some funding in to people's pockets. Is that a onetime payment, or is that going to continue on a monthly basis as long as people need it? Thanks, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you, Madam Chair. Under the income assistance regulations, the director has discretion to allocate an emergency allowance in situations that are deemed an emergency. So this onetime emergency allowance has been allocated to income assistance clients in Fort Simpson, in Fort Good Hope, and -- or rather in zones 1, 2, 3, to Fort Good Hope and other affected residents. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Katrina Nokleby Great Slave
Thank you, Madam Chair. So I'm just -- this is, again, sort of not maybe necessarily about the numbers but while I've got some -- somebody here to answer a little bit more about this flooding.
So my understanding is that the assessors and the assessor group or company will be in the communities; they're going to be looking at damage. Will the assessors be the determinant or the people making the determination of the award amount? Are they sort of the judicial panel, so to speak, for the relief funding? Thank you.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. My understanding of the system is that it's the disaster assistance committee that has the ability to make the final decisions on that. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Katrina Nokleby Great Slave
Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah okay, that's good I guess; there's at least two sort of arm's lengths there.
Can the Minister speak a little bit to -- well, I've got a few things here, I guess. Will the -- is there a dispute mechanism built in to the process? If there's only one sort of small group making a determination of assessment of value, I'm concerned that, you know, there may not be a process for people, or a timely process, for people to appeal that decision. As well, too, will local knowledge be incorporated into that decision making process? I think people situated within the communities are probably better assessors or judgers -- judgment of maybe what a property was like prior than, say, a senior bureaucrat sitting in Yellowknife who doesn't know Fort Simpson. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the disaster assistance committee is made up both of ADMs, who are largely based in Yellowknife, as well as regional presentation from all of the affected communities and regions. So although I do certainly appreciate the comment, and I recognize that.
With respect to whether or not there's an appeal community, or an appeal process, Madam Chair, I am not certain about that although there -- typically with a system of this nature, when it's at an ADM or director level, it does have some final appeal to a Minister. I expect this is the same here. If I'm wrong, I will bring that response and that correction back to the House tomorrow.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Katrina Nokleby Great Slave
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm just going to ask that the Minister commit that she do everything she can to make that appeal process as timely as possible. And if perhaps we have one-offs that we have to come to her or her colleague and ask for that, that we would get responded to in a timely manner. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Katrina Nokleby Great Slave
Thank you, Madam Chair. I have some concerns around, as the Minister had mentioned, the navigator positions. It's my understanding that those are two senior management employees. While I do recognize that people can go to others and other senior managers and people in different departments, which I do appreciate and I think that always happens in our small communities anyway, I'm sure we'll also be helpful to people helping out forms over here, and I hope -- and I know that the Northwest Territories will step up.
I did ask, in House and I don't believe I got an answer from the Minister of MACA, about whether there was a commitment to potentially hire a local individual in each community to help facilitate this process, and this would then go further to my colleague's questions around helping elders in those communities. I think this is a great opportunity to hire a local person for a short-term contract in order to help them facilitate. I don't imagine that amount of money is going to be that large, given the amount of time that they would save bureaucrats in having to answer all these questions. Thank you.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. So Madam Chair, at this point there's not an intention to use the funds that are within this five million to hire a local position for the communities. Certainly, you know, Madam Chair, as the assessment process gets underway and concludes, if in fact it's determined that there needs to be something further, you know, again, Madam Chair, you know, I anticipate that there's going to be some flexibility in the existing appropriations for that to happen and if not, we'll be back in front of the committee back in the fall. But, again, for the moment, that's not anticipated. And for the moment, it's not anticipated to be needed. I hear the concerns of the Member. Obviously, having someone on the ground is better. That's why there's two people that have been sent in immediately. They are both, you know -- yeah, at this point, that's not determined to be any advice for and I should keep it at that. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Katrina Nokleby Great Slave
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I respectfully disagree with the Minister. I think what I heard my colleagues and myself -- I actually didn't ask it but my colleagues did ask in public briefing that it be local people who know the people on the ground in the communities and who are trusted and the people in the communities are comfortable with those people. I can guarantee you sending in senior bureaucrats from Yellowknife to small communities who are not filling a navigator position, you're just creating another level of governmental official coming in. So I do strongly suggest -- and I would never want it to come out of this $5 million, I suggest you find that money elsewhere. That's all, Madam Chair. Thank you.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you. I'll that a comment, and we'll continue on. Member for Hay River South.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Rocky Simpson Hay River South
Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to start off with the navigators. You know, having navigators go in to support the people and the victims filling out forms is, you know, a great first step. And what I would look at, though -- and my thoughts as well was to use local people for it. And when I was looking at the number of student hires, summer student hires, there seems to be a number of positions that could still be available. And that might be an area where we could utilize some local local people to go in and, you know, knock on the doors of the people that are actually impacted and, you know, provide some jobs for a couple of three months. So, you know -- so that, to me, I guess is kind of an easy fix for a short term, anyway. And I'm wondering if the department would consider something like that to solve that issue. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I -- let me just give that one sort of a strong maybe in the sense that I think there's probably a number of the departments that have a presence in the affected communities who may well still be in a position to hire summer students. Obviously, I don't have that in front of me here. But, certainly, as the Minister for Finance with HR under it, we are still very much wanting to recruit summer students, so. And as we've said, we don't want to take that money out of this five million. So let me commit certainly to follow up with all of my colleagues to see if we can't support that idea. Thank you.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Rocky Simpson Hay River South
Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess the other -- you know, we're talking $5 million here. And I haven't heard any numbers on the number of people that have been impacted in each community or the number of businesses that actually have been impacted in each community. If the Minister may have that information, I'm not sure, but I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Madam Chair, I do have some numbers here in front of me. My concern, though, is that I've also heard, literally just this afternoon, that some of the numbers are still changing and some of the estimates are still changing, and I don't know that it does anyone any good for me to give numbers here if they are still changing and not accurate. So, yes, the assessors are in the communities, the navigators are in the communities and I think the situation, as I understand in the north -- in the Beau-Del is still unfolding. So, you know, I'll commit that we'll -- it may not be tomorrow and I know session's over tomorrow, but that -- the information as soon as it can be more verified can go out to the Members. Perhaps it will go out with the variance that we put out monthly. Hopefully before that, though, is that I would think that those numbers will be shared sooner than that. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Rocky Simpson Hay River South
Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess one issue I had with the forms is that, you know, it's fine that the navigators may help the persons fill out -- the victims fill out the forms but if neither have the experience or qualifications I guess of assessing, you know, maybe damage to the building, which I'm sure will be in those forms, then it's kind of a lost cause. So it seems to me that -- you know, I know the assessor's going in there to assess the damage but that's different than assessing the building for what needs to be done to the building. Is the government going to have somebody in there to assist the victims and the navigators with ensuring that the right information is placed on the forms? Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, that is partly the work of the disaster systems committee once its set up, or sorry -- that they are coming up with lists of eligibility of what types of damage and what property losses are going to be eligible for compensation and at what level. So that is indeed exactly part of the work that they would be undertaking. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Rocky Simpson Hay River South
Thank you, Madam Chair. You know, and looking at the disaster relief, I guess is that, you know, the reality is that it's not going to put anybody back to where they were 100 percent before they started, before this happened, and I'm hoping that, you know, that's relayed to the people so there's no false hope out there. It's very important that we do that. And I guess I just want to go to what the Member for Frame Lake was talking about and that was the -- you know, putting money in the pockets of individuals. And I guess when I look at that -- and I've been pushing that, and I've talked to the Minister of MACA about that, the Minister of ECE as well. And you know, it's just that when something like this happens, you know, people are displaced. And when you're displaced, I don't care if government's paying the -- footing the bill for the accommodation, meals, you're always out. You're always going to be out money. You might be paying for your own gas. You might be -- whatever it might be. And so there's always those extra costs and, you know, a lot of people, you know, they live paycheque to paycheque. They don't have a lot of funds saved up. So I think it's important that we take that into consideration. That's kinds of why I wanted the number of how many people are impacted, because I guess that -- when I look at what happened with the CERB, I think that's kinds of what that was, to put money in the pockets of the people right away. And I think that's what we're saying on this side is the same thing. You know, what can we do? I'm hoping it's not going to be, you know, a year down the road and we're still talking about putting money in people's pockets. I'm hoping that this situation gets sorted out fairly quickly and people get back in their houses and we solve this. So I think that's what we're looking for, and I guess ECE has already did -- provided some money, but we're looking for is a little more support than that to make sure that the money goes into their pocket and having the five million go towards the other, I've got no problem with that as long as there's money -- separate pot for people. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Madam Chair, I can give you an estimate. I think we're looking at somewhere between, you know, I think 60 to 80 households right now. So at least there's a sense of the scale of what we're dealing with. And Madam Chair, again, the commitment that I'm making, I realize that it is not as specific as people want but it's an understanding now that the disaster system's committee process, while it exists, while it's a policy and it's a process and it has a way of unfolding, is going to take some time. That is why I'm making the commitment that Finance and MACA are going to work together to make sure that we get ahead of that committee process and get some money moving faster than what that process by itself will take. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Rocky Simpson Hay River South
Thank you, Madam Chair. And, yeah, I just -- you know, we have victims out there and I just want to see this dealt with quickly. We need solutions and, you know, and the solutions have to come from all of us and, you know, we always say money's tight but at the same time, you know, we've got to help -- we've got to put the money where the help is actually really needed, and we know where it is in this instance so, you know, instead of -- you know, instead of us, you know, sitting here and arguing about stuff, you know, if you have a solution, put it out there and hopefully, you know, the department can use it and help the victims. So thank you. And that is all.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you. And I'll take that as a comment.
Any further questions comments? Member for Thebacha.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Frieda Martselos Thebacha
One comment. There's got to be some compassion here, okay. Compassion, it's our own people. These are people that are -- don't live in big houses that are worth $2 million and stuff, okay. And I stress to the government that we on this side know what compassion is, and we got to make sure the other side also knows that too, okay. And I don't want any cold answers when you're communicating to poor people and whatever, compassion plays a big part. And I've said that even at the beginning, that we got to listen to the people, okay. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Do you have any comment, Minister of Finance?
Committee Motion 132-19(2): Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022 - Motion to Amend Minerals and Petroleum Resources, Carried
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Madam Chair, the Minister of Housing has been very clear that she is committed to getting housing dealt with - ready, sorted, built, rebuilt, and when I'm focusing on the disaster assistance policy and the disaster assistance committee, it is not for lack of recognizing that we need to work outside that stringent process. I want people to know that there is a process, that it is in existence, that the committee is stood up, and you know, and will undertake its work and take it seriously. But, again, that's where -- I've made the statement today that we're going to be working together to accelerate something outside or in addition to that process. The challenge that I have, and I know it will produce frustration, is I don't have a final answer. What I know is that we need to move this five million out quickly. I know we need to move the five million into the hands of people who have been displaced, who may already be back from the evacuation centre. And, you know, we want to work within the processes we have as much as we can because they are there. But I want to send that message that I recognize that in the coming days, a method needs to be in place so that this five million can start to move out even if it's in some sort of advance ahead of the full rollout of the process. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you, Minister. Member for Thebacha, did you have any further questions?
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Frieda Martselos Thebacha
I don't have any other comments. I hope that people understand compassion, though.
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you. So we're going to move on, and I'm going to call this page now.
I don't want to use another ten minutes. As long as you're not going to speak I mean for ten minutes. Okay. Well, I will let you go, then. Member for Frame Lake.
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks very much, Madam Chair. Yeah, I just want to get clear assurance that our assistance approach is not being driven by the federal reimbursement. We need to put people first. And, quite frankly, I can't speak for everybody on this side of the House, we don't really -- or I don't care if we actually get all the money back out of the federal government. The principle that needs to be driving our assistance approach is to help people get back up on their feet and get people back into their homes by winter. The reimbursement stuff can come afterwards. That's not what should be driving the way that we provide assistance to people. And this form and that policy is what is going to hamstring us. That's what this is designed around and you guys need to fix this now. Thanks, Madam Chair.
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, we are not driven by getting money from the federal government. It will certainly be nice to get money back from the federal government. They have a disaster relief fund. It is set up to provide supports for all provinces and territories. Our disaster assistance policy is not that different from the others for this exact purpose. But we aren't before the House right now with this, making the commitments that I've made today, in the hopes that I'll get money back. We're here because we want to make sure that we're getting this money out as quickly as we can. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you, Minister. And thank you, Member. All right.
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, public safety, not previously authorized, $4,952,000. Does committee agree?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimate (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, school of community government, not previously authorized, negative $10,000. Does committee agree?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, Sports, recreation and youth, not previously authorized, negative $165,000. Does committee agree?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, total department, not previously authorized, $4,644,000. Does committee agree?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you, committee. Do you agree that you have concluded consideration of Tabled Document 412-19(2) Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No.1, 2021-2022?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Thank you. Oh, sorry. Member for Frame Lake.