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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Thank you, committee. We will take a short recess. Mahsi.

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The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Committee, we've agreed to consider Tabled Document 723-19(2) Capital Estimates 2023-2024. Committee, we will now consider the Department of Health and Social Services. Does the Minister of Health and Social Services wish to bring witnesses into the Chamber?

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

I do, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber.

Would the Minister please introduce the witnesses.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. On my left is Kyla Kakfwi Scott, the assistant deputy minister. And on my right is Perry Heath, the director of Infrastructure.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Committee has agreed to forego general comments. Does the committee agree to proceed to the detail contained in the tabled document?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Committee, the Department of Health and Social Services begins on page 38. We will defer the department totals and review the estimates by activity summary, beginning at page 39, with administrative and support services, with information item on page 40.

Health and Social Services, administrative and support services, infrastructure investments, $500,000. Does the committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Committee, please turn to page 41, health and social programs, with information item on pages 42 and 43. Health and social services programs -- give me a moment, please.

Committee, going back to page 41, health and social programs and information items on page 42 and 43, are there any questions? Mr. Johnson.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My questions are regarding the wellness and recovery centre which I believe is the shelter that is planned to be built. Well, I guess it was originally planned to be built kind of by the old St. John's Ambulance there on what I believe is -- I don't know the streets in Yellowknife. So can I just confirm -- well, whether that is the location or whether -- I know there was a request from the City of Yellowknife to put it in the current location of the day shelter where the trailers are but whether we have decided on a location? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Minister.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, thank you. We met with the City of Yellowknife. They've expressed an interest in having the shelter located near the old Northern Frontier Visitors Centre, which is where the current day shelter is. There's been no decision yet on that location. There are a number of pros and cons to each of the locations in consideration. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Follow-up, Mr. Johnson?

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Can I get -- well, this says 2024-2025 for completion, you know, which I assume would mean construction, you know, next fiscal, probably pretty soon. Can I just get an update of when the estimated completion for this project is or whether we're on track and on time, on budget. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Minister. Yes, Minister.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the budget for this project has changed and the completion date has changed, and I'll ask my colleague Perry Heath to provide some additional detail. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mahsi. Mr. Heath.

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Heath

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It's our hope that once the location is finalized, we'll be in a position to finalize the design on this facility early in the next fiscal year, or potentially even late this fiscal year. We would expect that, again, once the location is determined, it will be a duration of approximately 24 to 36 months to go through construction completion.

Again, the Minister did make discussions about the overall cost of this project, and we are currently in conversations with Canada under the ICIP program for funding and awaiting decision. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mr. Johnson.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, okay, I heard, you know, up to 36 months for construction. So I imagine that this -- even this 2024-2025 in the capital estimates here is probably ambitious. So it seems there's some issues with the cost. Is there any hope I can get an estimate of what this building is going to cost? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Minister.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, thank you. There are a lot of unknowns at this point because the location has not been fixed. We know a lot about the 51st Street location, but the Northern Frontier Visitors Centre location has a number of challenges. And for additional detail, I'll ask Mr. Heath to fill in.

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The Chair

The Chair Ronald Bonnetrouge

Mr. Heath.

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Heath

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It's no secret to anybody that the Northern Frontier Visitors Centre site is probably one of the most complex geotechnical locations in Yellowknife. There is one -- in one location, there's probably three or four feet of permafrost. In another location, there's probably 110 feet of permafrost. As you can probably imagine, that makes it very difficult to come with a construction estimate when you are trying to figure out the lengths of the piles. We would have to do an extensive investigation before we could finalize exactly what that ledger would be. Thank you, Mr. Chair.