Yes, thank you as I mentioned, the site of the Hay River long-term care, which is the old HH William's site, flooded in the spring. And so there's a question about whether that site is still suitable for building the long-term care on. So that location is now in question. In 2021, the location that we had planned for the Fort Simpson long-term care flooded. So that location is also in question. So that's one of the reasons that these schedules have been adjusted. I'll just ask Mr. Heath if he would like to add anything further to the Hay River project, which was the project we thought was furthest along. Thank you
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Thank you, Mr. Chair. The majority of money currently being expended in Hay River is actually for the demolition of the HH Williams facility. We went to a public RFP, awarded a contract to a local contractor for approximately -- I believe it was $2 million for that work. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Yeah, thank you. You know, I -- sorry, this is perhaps me not understanding how exactly capital estimates working. But, you know, we have $41 million for the fiscal we're presently in. I assume we are trying to spend $41 million in this fiscal. But I don't understand how we get to that number if some of it is demolition, and there's risk planning. Is there some other major project here? Or I guess also what I'm asking is are we going to spend $41 million this year on long-term care, or is that number just completely unrealistic at this point? Thank you
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Julie Green Yellowknife Centre
Yes, I think the missing piece here is the Stanton Legacy Project, which is partly a long-term care project. And so I'll ask Mr. Heath to provide additional detail on the spending on that project. Thank you
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Thank you, Mr. Chair. The overall construction budget that spans over multiple years for legacy was awarded for the sum of approximately $47 million. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Yes, okay. I think that does answer my question. So, and the reason I don't see that here is because the estimated completion for that is this fiscal, and we are on budget and on time for Stanton Legacy opening at the end of this fiscal and spending this $40 million or whatever the number -- 40 something million dollars that it costs, is that correct? Thank you
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Julie Green Yellowknife Centre
Yes, the estimated completion time by the contractor is the end of this calendar year. There will need to be a commissioning period, and then the various components that are occupying the building - the extended care unit, the long-term care beds on the third floor, and the Frame Lake clinic, audiology, and rehab on the main floor. Those will be phased in the next fiscal year. So just as a reminder, this is the capital budget. So there will be O and M costs that will come in the form of a supplementary appropriation. Thank you.
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Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. So I was on the same page, sorry, as MLA Johnson. I won't fully repeat what he has said but my concern is that three out of four of these long-term care facilities are in planning phases. The planning phase is estimated completion of 2025 -- like, the year that is under estimated completion, that's the estimated completion of the planning phase, is that correct?
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Thank you, Mr. Chair. So for Fort Simpson, Fort Smith, and Inuvik, what's projected is the completion of planning which encompasses needs assessment, operational plan, function program, and schematic design, and class C cost estimate. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Thank you very much. And sorry, I'm having a hard time hearing Mr. Heath at times. I don't know if we can turn up his microphone; it could just be my ears, so I apologize for that.
So my concern is that given that this is at the planning stage, not the actual facilities will be done at the estimated completion time that, really, the soonest we're going to have additional long-term care facilities in the Northwest Territories would be the 2027-2028 fiscal year, which is another six years away from now. And a lot of these facilities are already late, I guess, or have been pushed back from when they were expected. And I have concerns about this given that one of the priorities of this Assembly was aging in place. And the infrastructure deficit of being able to properly care for our elders right now is huge. And so given as well that MACA has made a commitment of completing new flood maps this fall, is there any opportunity to advance some of these estimated completion timelines in order to see additional facilities in our territory sooner? Thank you
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Julie Green Yellowknife Centre
Yes, thank you the Stanton Legacy building will have 72 beds of -- 74 beds of long-term care. They won't all open at once; they're not all needed at once. But we anticipate opening 17 of them in the next fiscal year. And the building will be ready to have more beds phased in as necessary. The project in Hay River in particular, had there not been a flood this year, would have continued on to a nearer completion. But unfortunately, we have to wait until we know what the new flood maps look like before we select a location for that. Thank you