Yeah, and I guess I'm wondering if -- you know, this is one of those areas where I also find a hard time for any of us to provide any accountability. You know, we spend millions on licensing and software and trying to procure these things, there's often problems. I understand that is the case across all governments. I don't really know anything about IT but I'm wondering if -- well, I guess I'll start with a question.
I heard Infrastructure is planning a dashboard to kind of update projects as they go along and perhaps release some sort of five-year capital plan, and I believe almost every jurisdiction does. Would software be included in that dashboard, or is that simply Infrastructure's capital? Thank you.