Thank you, Mr. Chair. So ENR has been meeting with the Tlicho government to discuss the concerns, as the Minister mentioned. And what we're trying to do is come up with an interim plan while we work with the Tlicho government on a forest management plan for the area.
What we're interested in, and working on right now, is what will happen for those -- for kilometre 0 to 5 and 8 to 12, which previously there were permits in that area. And my understanding is we're almost -- we're almost there with those discussions. So at this time, they're still ongoing. Thank you, Mr. Chair.