This is page numbers 3523 - 3558 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I appreciate that. So if I'm in the wrong section for this next question, please let me know. And it's in regards to the declining CMHC funding.

I'm wondering if the Minister can speak to whether or not the Housing Corporation has put in an application to have that declining CMHC funding replaced by the GNWT to FMB? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of NWT Housing Corporation.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll have vice-president Jim Martin respond. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Vice-president.

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Martin

Thank you, Madam Chair. With regards to the declining CMHC dollars, the Housing Corporation did enter into a bilateral funding agreement with CMHC that extends out to 2027-2028. And under that agreement, the corporation has the flexibility to utilize the funds under that to offset declining CMHC up to that point. So at this time, the Housing Corporation has not returned to FMB for funding offsets for that decline. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. In response to that, then, does the NWT Housing Corporation intend to put forward a costed measurable plan as to how they are going to address the declining CMHC funding, which as I understand, are able to be offset by the bilateral funding agreement until 2027-2028. So it gives them a little bit of time to come up with that plan. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of NWT Housing Corporation.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Housing Corporation has acknowledged and has been working with the decline that we are going to be seeing. Every year, we are experiencing a percentage that is going down of this funding coming to the Northwest Territories. I will have vice-president Jim Martin respond. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Vice-president Mr. Martin.

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Martin

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Housing Corporation has set out in its four-year business plan recognition of this decline and has set out a number of measures that the corporation is implementing ranging from cost saving measures to incremental revenue generation opportunities. So we're certainly looking at all those areas, but do recognize that there is a need to look to the longer term, you know, to plan for that, and there's certainly federal engagement activities going on in this area, and we'll continue to monitor this area very closely going forward. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Kam Lake. A quick one.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Quick one, oh my gosh. Okay, thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I will leave the discussion about retrofits and repairs to somebody else. And I notice that there is an increase in here for rent supplement leasing. Does that have -- is that an increase in leasing units in the territory? Does that have anything to do with the money that's given to ECE for renting and leasing units, and is there an intent to combine those budget line items between ECE and housing so that housing is coming out of one department? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of NWT Housing Corporation.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. We did have an increase in the Canada rent program. I just can't find the number right here right now. I will have president Young respond. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. President Young.

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Young

My apologies, I couldn't hear quite the question when I put my earphone on but the number of Canada housing benefit clients? Sorry.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

I'll just get the Member from Kam Lake to repeat her quick question.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

I'll just ask one question instead of the three I snuck in there. No, the Canada Housing Benefit I'll ask about in another section. My question was specific to the rent supplement leasing and the increase to that, and can the Minister please speak to what that increase is getting, if it's getting more leases to more units in the territory through market rent? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. I'll give it back to Ms. Young.

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Young

My apologies, Madam Chair. We've just confirmed, the budget has not changed in our plans for our leases. There are, of course, nuances through the year in terms of costs but right now we are budgeting the same year over year for our leases. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Deh Cho.

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Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ronald Bonnetrouge Deh Cho

Mahsi, Madam Chair. I've got questions under the apprentices. I want to first thank the Minister and her department for initiating the journeyman housing maintainer program. Our maintenance staff in Providence are really looking forward to it.

What we notice too, because I was an employee of the LHO in the maintenance department too as a journeyman housing maintainer, but when we were there, we always looked in awe at the Department of Public Works and Services at that time, and it was always in the larger centres. Specifically this one we were looking at was in Hay River. They had a full slate of trades on staff, electrical. They had electricians, plumbers, OBMs, carpenters, and those are the main ones anyways, and there was always apprenticeship opportunities in the larger centres for those trades, okay. Nothing in Fort Providence. Probably similar to all the small communities. We never ever get a chance to get a real trade certification because those things are not offered in our communities.

We had a plumber/gasfitter at one point. He trained -- an OBM, not a plumber/gasfitter, which is a better ticket to have, but an OBM. And we also had an OBM on staff quite a number of years ago but that didn't pan out. And right now we don't have any, and we got, you know, units probably the seniors home is the one that has two or three boiler systems in the building, and you need certification to be able to operate those. And I've always said I think there is a problem within the corporation because of that, because the nearest contractor is about two hours away, you know, and for the maintenance of them on a daily basis.

And I'm just wondering, my question would be is if the corporation would consider putting a heating -- journeyman heating ticket, whether it be journeyman plumber/gasfitter, an OBM, or oil heat technician now, into the communities? This will spur, you know, the local economy also and then spur apprenticeship opportunities for our people, which is good for years to come. Mahsi.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of NWT Housing Corporation.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. And thank you to the Member for the question because we do see this as an issue throughout the territories and amongst the smaller communities, but I'm quite optimistic with the unit delivery that we do have, and the builds that are coming into the communities, that we may be able to expand on those opportunities. For that, I'll have president Young elaborate on the response. Thank you.