Thank you, Madam Chair. And I know that the Minister's constituents will remind him if he's not, you know, promoting and championing community people getting into these positions.
I guess that leads me to ask, then, about the department's involvement with the Indigenous Gateway Program and how much does the department really utilize that? Because I do see MACA as being a department that very much is one where the work could be trained, not so much -- like ENR, and your other hat, has some very specific, you know, scientific years of study type roles but MACA, you know, there are a lot that we could be training. And I'm worried, like we've said many times, that we're keeping good people just because they don't have that capacity or that training or that experience, that paper, right. And I know my colleague that's sitting in the chair right now has commented already this session that we need to be looking at the pool of candidates available and then, you know, working backwards from that to get them into these positions versus oh sorry, you don't meet our very specific criteria, so. And I do note that the department has one of the higher targets for Indigenous hiring of all of the -- it's ambitious. So maybe the Minister or the department can speak a little bit to are they one of the bigger departments using the Indigenous Gateway Program; is there a way that that could be more fostered, any comments around that? Thank you, Madam Chair.