Thank you for that. And again, sometimes I realize I probably should know how some of these things work, but there's a lot of details floating around in my head.
I guess I'm wondering if perhaps through the Minister and the department that we could maybe have a -- I hate to say this to my colleagues -- but a briefing or have a meeting with both of these community -- organizations in order more to -- because I know we've had them come and present to specific committees on -- on certain items, but I think, for me, it would be useful to understand them as an organization as a whole or how they interact and where their wants and needs are as another sort of stakeholder in the game that we don't really have a lot of access to. And because we don't sit on the -- any of the intergovernmental councils, for us to meet those types of people and hear from them could maybe be difficult. Or they're not aware that we're looking for information. So maybe the -- if the Minister could speak to that. Thank you.