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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. I know the department, well, is reviewing the three policies and, you know, I eventually understand we will update them. I get the kind of scale of that task and getting into the weeds of hundreds of millions of dollars and billions of dollars worth of infrastructure. But I'm just wondering as part of that work whether there is any desire to bring any of this into regulation or to bring it into contract with municipalities. I think there is a bit of a -- I get that we don't want to bind future Assemblies but the way that municipal -- or that school funding formula, as a contrast, works is much more predictable. And it's set out in regulation and we -- without -- we know -- the DEAs know what they're going to get. And I think since we've come up with these new funding formulas, it's been a bit of a question mark about how and if we are ever going to close this gap. And if the reality is that that we're just never going to close it, then I think we need to tell communities that because capital planning takes 30 years and they have to decide whether to pave roads or whether to switch to trucked water or whether -- you know, to make very large decisions. To stop building recreational infrastructure.

So I'm just wondering if as part of we -- can we -- what is the timeline on reviewing all of these policies and whether there's an effort to give it some predictability of what this looks like going forward? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

I'll start and then I'll turn to the deputy minister.

So when we first started talking about it, we were talking 2023-2024. As I said in the House here, this is 2022-2023. So we'll be done this upcoming fiscal year. We are a year ahead of schedule. We are working on it. We are trying to address the challenges there.

And for the second part of the question, I'll turn to the deputy minister. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Gareau.

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Gareau

Thank you. Yes, as the Minister said, we are updating all three of our large funding policies in 2022-2023.

We do provide informal notice to community governments about what their funding levels for the upcoming year will be. And if there are reductions, which there have not been in the life of this Assembly and actually the prior Assembly before this, we do give them a heads up. The -- so from that perspective, you know, we do advise community governments use the same funding amount you received last year as the basis for your budgeting. We do have the ability as well to enter into multiyear agreements to provide some stability and predictability around the funding, but. And in prior years, we often published public communications to community governments to let them know at a global level that there were no funding reductions and we'll be starting that process again this spring once the budget is -- once the GNWT budget is passed so that communities have that information for their budgeting purposes. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Are there any further questions under the Municipal and Community Affairs, regional operations? Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just have a couple of questions. One of them is the $825,000 recreation funding. Is that proposal based or is it per capita based, the funding? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

For that detail, I'll turn to the deputy minister. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Gareau.

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Gareau

Thank you. Yes, that funding -- I believe the Member's looking at the funding on page 352, and that funding is proposal based. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

All right. Thank you. Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

So if it's proposal based that means that any community could -- Madam Chair, anybody could -- any community or regional centre could put proposals in, anything to do with recreation or sport; right? Am I correct? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Yes.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

Madam Chair, I also wonder how come we had, in youth centres in 2021 Actuals, we had $30,000 and then nothing for this coming -- these mains. I'm just wondering, we're always talking about encouraging our youth. We're always talking about the youth are the future generations of leadership. Is there any reason why there was no allocation for youth centres in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

For that detail, I'll turn to the deputy minister.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Gareau.

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Gareau

Thank you, Madam Chair. That $30,000 is showing a one-time contribution we made in that fiscal year. It was not a regularly budgeted program. So that's why it just shows up one time. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

Also under the youth contribution programs that develops the youth leadership, in 2021 we only spent -- well, because of COVID, I am sure, but we only spent $45,000 of the actuals. Is that why we were keeping the same amount of $225,000 within that -- in that line? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA. All right. Thank you. Member for Great Slave.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. Thanks to our great research staff, I have a very wonderful chart in front of me that shows that the amount of funding to municipal governments for environmental services, that the gap is actually -- will increase this year coming up.

I'm just curious to know what the department's plan is to deal with the environmental liabilities in our communities. I'm aware of a few projects, without naming those communities, that, you know, there is some dispute over whether the GNWT should be responsible for cleaning them up. Some predate the existence of the GNWT so that becomes a bit of a struggle. And in the meantime, I'm worried about people that are living with contaminated ground and -- which can also have a soil vapour component. So it's not only hydrocarbons in our ground water; it can be hydrocarbons in our soils. And I can think of two -- three communities right off the top of my head where I know of sites.

So what is the Minister and the department doing to resolve that and address that, and is there a way that we can actually get more money into these environmental services that's a great way -- there's always a training or a community component to those RFPs? It's a good way also to just keep some money into the communities themselves. Thank you.