Thank you, Madam Chair. So is it -- it's safe to say that this is a cost in maintaining that in the event that we actually would need that? And I do see people nodding their heads so I'll continue on.
And I guess my next question, then, is if they were -- we were to decide that -- or they were to decide, because it sounds like they're a little bit third party, that they didn't need to travel and maybe went to a virtual style training, that that money would not need to be used but then I'm guessing is that we couldn't do anything with it anyway because it is flow through money. So if the Minister or department could speak to that, that would be great.