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Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member -- sorry, Minister of Lands.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. I'll just turn to the assistant deputy minister to get some clarity on things. Thank you.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Assistant deputy minister Chapman.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Chapman

Thank you, Madam Chair. Some of the work that we're undertaking right now with some of the contribution funding will be -- and it's project specific, around mapping, to gather information related to our UO strategy. So we're sharing that information with the unauthorized occupants -- sorry. The reality is that some of this money is being utilized right now and will be specific to gathering information with the various Indigenous governments that are working with the -- their own identification of cabins in their area, in their territory. And so as we gather that information, we'll use that. So the money itself would be spent this year but next year, they could be allocating some of that money towards other projects and other initiatives that we could be using.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I'm just noting a slight increase to the policy legislation and communications line item, and I just have some questions around communications.

The Minister and I got to work on a constituency concern together which I think was probably almost the closest the government has come to actually seeing a review through the surface rights board. And interestingly enough, both people on either side of that were constituents of mine so I was able to see both sides. And one of the things that was very clear to me was that it could have been mitigated through communication beforehand. Both people didn't realize that it was possible for two different people to have surface and subsurface claims on the same piece of land. And so I'm wondering if the Minister can speak to whether or not this slight budget increase will provide for better interdepartmental communication between Lands and ITI and as well to stakeholders in those claims. Thank you.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Lands.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

For that detail, I'll turn to the assistant deputy minister. Thank you.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. ADM Chapman.

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Chapman

Thank you, Madam Chair. We currently do have information that's publicly available on our website. Obviously as we, I guess, are in situations where we're trying to address any conflicts like this, we do our best to try to provide any additional information publicly so that individuals understand the various rights. As the Member has pointed out, the subsurface and surface rights that seem to adjoin each other in those situations and understanding what the impacts may be. So we obviously are in a process of trying to maintain continuous improvement. We can always provide better information, I think is what we should strive for, and we'll continue to do so. Thank you.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Can the Minister confirm if there are standard operating procedures about what information is provided to stakeholders when they go through the surface or subsurface claims applications so that that information is given to them at that time. Thank you.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Lands.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

For that detail, I'll turn to the assistant deputy minister. Thank you.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. ADM Chapman.

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Chapman

Thank you, Madam Chair. I can't speak to the subsurface rights and how that information is shared. Obviously, that's within the Department of ITI's mandate.

With respect to any land administration leases that are issued on Commissioner's or territorial lands, we do have a specific clause that we walk through our applicants with and that reserves out the rights to the subsurface. And so fundamentally, we make that known and that's part of each and every one of our leases that are currently within our land administration. Thank you.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. My last question is also in regards to communications but more outward facing just strictly with stakeholders, and I'm wondering if Lands has completed their service standards for land applications. Thank you.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Lands.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Yes, we have.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Are there any further questions from Members under lands? Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I guess I'll start with the legendary Deh Cho land use plan that's been in development for 21 years. Is there any money in this budget to complete that work? Thanks, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Lands.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

For that detail, I'll turn to the assistant deputy minister. Thank you.

Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. ADM Chapman.