Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.
Debates of March 8th, 2022
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Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake
Thanks, Madam Chair. I think that's all I've got on this activity. Thank you.
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you. Are there any questions from Members under lands operations?
Seeing none. Lands, operations, operations expenditure summary, 2022-2023 Main Estimates, $11,492,000. Does committee agree?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Lesa Semmler
Thank you, committee. We are now on lands, planning and coordination, on page 322 with information items on 323 and 324. Member for Yellowknife North.
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Chair. In the Minister's opening statements, he said there was work to advance land use planning in the southeastern NWT, and today the Premier said that this was one of the areas we were optimistic about making some progress on land claims in. Can someone just explain to me what is the southeastern NWT, and does that include Akaitcho? Thank you.
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Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Chapman
Thank you, Madam Chair. So in the southeastern NWT, we're conducting ongoing negotiations with the -- I can't remember the name, the Athabasca Denesuline, the name that I unfortunately butcher every time, but fundamentally they are undertaking negotiations with Canada, with EIA, and that's the area that the Premier had spoken to earlier. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Chair. Okay, yeah, that's that transboundary negotiation. I understand that.
Can someone just -- you know, on that list, Akaitcho is not included and I know Deh Cho is also an unsettled area. I just don't know why that is. Can I have some explanation as to why? Thank you.
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Committee Motion 198-19(2): Tabled Document 561-19(2): Main Estimates 2022-2023 - Legislative Assembly- Deferral of Department, Carried
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Chapman
Thank you, Madam Chair. For that level of detail, I'll have to get that information back.
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. And I -- yeah, I -- admittedly, there's probably a lot to be done in a briefing about land use planning and land withdrawals. I don't quite fully understand them.
I guess in regards to policy work in this area, I grow more and more skeptical that land withdrawals are helping us. I'll note we got in a big fight with half of the Beaufort Delta being a reindeer reserve. I know we often -- the Minister takes the brunt of other Indigenous governments going on to other Indigenous governments' land withdrawals. And if the purpose of, you know, us withdrawing, you know, about half of the most mineralist rich resource area in the planet is to reconciliation and eventually give this land back, I'm just questioning whether this tool is actually accomplishing settling any of the claims. I guess has the Minister looked into reviewing plan withdrawals and whether this tool is accomplishing its goal of eventually giving this land back to Indigenous governments? Thank you.
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you. This is a tool that EIA has in place. We think it's -- works with our Indigenous governments. We have to have be very respectful for them through that there, and it's part of -- part of the process. And to answer the second question, no, I have not looked at this. We have other policies and regulations that we need to work on, and land withdraws is not one of them presently. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, committee, for indulging me on what are somewhat away from budgetary questions. I just have one last one, which I still don't quite understand. I get the argument for keeping land that hopefully one day we will give back to the Indigenous governments in unsettled areas, but when you look at the map, there's a bunch of land withdrawals in the North where we've settled the land. Can I just get an explanation of why after land is settled it is kept withdrawn, and is there plans to remove that? Thank you.
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