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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I guess my final question is in regards to federal supports for the COVID Secretariat for the 2022-2023 year. I know that just in hearing what we're talking about today, a lot of the ongoing funds are really to ensure that the North is protected. We have limited housing resources, which have an impact on this, and healthcare in the territory is quite expensive. And so I'm wondering if there are discussions with the federal government to continue supports for this? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, thank you. We hope to have federal support for COVID as an endemic, and there are some supports we know they are providing; for example, rapid antigen tests are coming from their stockpile. Vaccines are still coming from their stockpile. But we have additional costs for service delivery that we've made an ask for. And to put more detail to this, I'd ask you, Madam Chair, to call on the deputy minister. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister.

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Cooper

Thank you, Madam Chair. So throughout the pandemic, we've of course have relied very heavily on the federal funding to support our multiple elements of our approach. We've been doing a good job on a monthly basis of tracking what those are and -- so that we can both defend our expenditure and do proper management.

We have contributed to some work that's been ongoing in government to track expenses and have contributed to I guess an ask that has been put forward. So just to affirm that we are doing our best to try to convey that there will be costs and that we would sure appreciate having some extra federal support for them. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to talk about I guess the enforcement of orders. And there was fines that went along with them, and I'm just wondering if there's -- where that -- you know, when that money was received, if people pled guilty where it went or how it was dealt with. And also, you know, just the cost to enforce the tickets given out, if we have an average. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, thank you. For that detail, I'd appreciate you calling on Mr. Neudorf.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Neudorf.

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Neudorf

Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. We've given out a total of 73 tickets today -- to date. Our approach has always been with education first and to, you know, encourage people as best we can to follow the public health orders and, in many cases, we just needed to provide education to ensure so people could be doing the right thing. But sometimes that didn't work and then we had to follow up with warnings, verbal and written warnings, about 1,400 or so of those given out. Sometimes that doesn't work, and we do have to have to follow up with tickets. So like I said, 73 of those. The majority of those were to individuals, and the vast majority of those had a fine of about $1,700. They are still going through the court system. So there are a variety different end points for those tickets to date. Some have been paid already. About -- I would -- about a third of them have been paid already. A third of them are before the court system still. And then there would be another third or so that would be for a variety of different reasons that we actually -- when it came to actually pursuing the fine and we decided not to proceed with it.

And in terms of revenue around those fines, that -- I believe that's the Department of Justice that would actually get the revenue, record the revenue associated with those fines. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. You know, as we're winding down here, the ones that -- I guess you say a third have been paid and a third in the courts. Is there any indication that maybe the department may just, you know, not -- or just ask that -- or direct that those ones that are in the courts will not be pursued any further and just drop them? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

I don't feel like we can comment on things that are sitting before the court right now. So I'm going to give that a pass.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And I appreciate that, and I understand.

The next item here is the wind down costs. Are we looking at any additional costs with respect to -- you know, we've got camps set up at the border. You know, we've used -- you know, rented out buildings and that. Is there any additional costs -- like, say for instance, as an example, the border in -- at -- on Highway 1, you know, it's on lands that -- I guess that are looked after by ITI. Will there be a cost to clean up that land? Is there any damage? Any environmental damage that has to be looked at? You know, and not just that one but other ones as well. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, thank you. I'd ask Mr. Neudorf to answer that, please.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Neudorf.

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Neudorf

Thank you, Madam Chair. So we are talking to the contractors that are providing the infrastructure at those two campsites, and the Member's correct that when we talk about kind of the more significant wind up costs, it will be in those two highway camps on the Dempster Highway and at the Alberta border. We are not anticipating anything extraordinary as part of, you know, demobilization. That infrastructure that's there is provided by the contractor and as part of the contract that we have in place, we would expect that they'll come in and clean up. We have appreciated being able to use the infrastructure that was at the Highway 1 border crossing, you know, prior to COVID, which was, you know, the visitors centre there at the 60th parallel. That certainly -- that infrastructure -- ITI's infrastructure and just the Department of Infrastructure and their turnouts they had there, we've used them, and we've appreciated that. We have had -- are having ongoing discussions them, just to make sure that when we leave that we clean things up appropriately, and we'll involve both of those departments as part of the cleanup. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And with respect to I guess early -- like, I'm not sure what the contracts were, if equipment is -- it was just month by month or if it was -- you know, a fixed term. Will there be any extra costs, I guess, if there is a -- you know, release of equipment earlier than anticipated? And also employees, will there be any additional severance required, you know, anything significant I guess with respect to, I guess, demob. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services.