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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister Chinna.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair, I was just waiting for the light to go on. I didn't see it right away. I'll have vice-president Jim Martin respond. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Martin.

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Martin

Thank you, Madam Chair. There's certainly different approaches at delivering housing, and one of them is through mortgage financing. And Housing NWT has certainly looked at this in the past and up to this point, you know, we've been obviously managing a fair number of funding pressures and dealing with the declining CMHC challenge as well. So obviously there's that limited O and M challenge that we do have to consider when taking on additional debt that would bring with it additional interest expense that would have to be serviced. But it's certainly something to consider in the future. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Yeah, and, you know, I think there's a different argument to be made, whether you want to, well, get a mortgage for a house in nonmarket community but, to me, if we're going to build a new building in Yellowknife, you know, where it's clear that that asset is mortgageable, it has a value, that would make sense. I guess I'll just leave that as a comment that perhaps, you know, at the housing corp, going forward when it tries to get money out of Cabinet, it might not get money but perhaps it could just ask for debt because that would work too. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister Chinna.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you. I'll just take that as a comment.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Any further questions under the finance and infrastructure services? Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, the department talks about putting 100 new homes I guess on the ground, finance are -- or I mean paying for that. I was just wondering, one of the issues sometimes that arise is the securing the land. I'm just wondering if, you know, when we're talking a hundred new homes, has the land been secured for that? Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister Chinna.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you. That was a nice short answer. When we're talking about the hundred new homes, you know, I know there's dollars going to Indigenous groups as well. I know that the housing corporation actually bought the -- you know, a building here in Yellowknife as well. So how many of those hundred new homes would actually, say, go into Yellowknife versus communities outside? Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister Chinna.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. With the hundred unit rollout, the units were allocated outside of Yellowknife. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And out of those hundred units, you know, we talk about units being sold off and we probably talk about, as well, units, you know, being demolished whether it was because of flooding or whatever. So out of that, what is the net units that will actually be available, taking into account units sold off and demolished? Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister Chinna.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll just have Jim respond because we do have some units that are scheduled to be demolished, and we do have some units that are there that we need to repair as well. We do have a project that's going to start in 2023-2024 of investing money into repairing our public housing units. But I'll have Jim elaborate on the response. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Vice-president Martin.

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Martin

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, so the target is to deliver a hundred new public housing units. So that would be added to our existing stock of available public housing units for tenants. Now, we do recognize that there's ongoing dispositions that do occur within our portfolio. They come in different forms but one of them would be under the homeownership initiative program. But the expectation is that those units would eventually be replaced over time through subsequent capital plans and to ensure that we do realize the net increase of a hundred units. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. The other thing I see here as well is you talk about -- in the activity description here under finance, occupational health and safety for the head office and also for district and local housing authority. One of the things I find in the communities is that it's kind of becoming an issue because we have places, for instance Riverview Lodge, which is basically for probably more single people than maybe couples. But what we're doing is we're getting a mix of people who really expect quiet enjoyment of their rooms but we are now starting to put in people who were homeless, living in the shelter. They've got addictions problems. You know, they invite people over and, you know, there's drinking going on and, in some instances, there's, you know, sale of drugs and that. And so people now are starting to find that there's a safety issue there and eventually somebody's going to get hurt if we don't do something about it. There's people that are staying in there that shouldn't be. You know, they're living in probably other areas of the buildings as well. And it's probably not unique to Hay River. You know, other buildings in other communities as well. So how much emphasis has been put on I guess in dealing with those type of issues? Because as we see an increase in drugs and alcohol and addictions, we're going to -- you know, that's going to be around with us for a while. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister Chinna.