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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. The last number I had to date that I could remember at the top of my head was 33. We've had projects throughout the -- oh sorry, 35 not 33. And these requirements are built into the contracts that are put out there throughout the Northwest Territories. And it's also -- when we did get the funding from CIRNAC -- from the federal government, that I wanted to create an opportunity at the ground level to create local employment and to be able to really acknowledge the education and training and try to really enhance this opportunity. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks. I have nothing further on this activity, and I want to thank the Minister and staff. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Questions under the executive? Member from Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. One of the Members here, I think the other day, alluded to the housing corp being work for third parties to generate revenue. And I guess I have a -- I kind of have an issue with government competing against private sector. And we seen that, you know, with the RCMP units. And it's not just with this department. It's also with infrastructure and other ones as well. So is this going to be sort of a new way of doing business? Are you going to -- is the department going to go out there and start looking for opportunities that compete against private sector in the future and ramp that up? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister Chinna.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. This was a one-time opportunity where the federal government had reached out to housing corporation at that time to deliver the housing units. And no, that's not going to be our practice in the future. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Well, that's good to hear. You know, I think that we have to -- you know, instead of competing against private sector, we got to support them. And, you know, they're out there, you know, creating jobs as well, and they've got their own infrastructure to pay for so it's important.

Just on -- there was some talk, I guess, about homelessness and, you know, the facility in Inuvik. And I'm not sure what the cost of running that facility is, but I'm sure it was up in the $2 million mark? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister Chinna.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll have vice-president Jim Martin respond. I don't know if we actually have that tallied up number on hand. We might have to get back to the Member.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Vice-president Martin.

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Martin

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. The cost currently to operate the two Inuvik shelters is approximately $2 million. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess I just find it strange is that in other communities, you know, say for instance Hay River, I'll use as an example, we've got a day and night shelter there and I'm not sure, we're probably -- Housing, I think might be putting $350,000 into it. So if we're spending $2 million there, I'm not sure what we're spending here in Yellowknife as well, but are we getting, I guess, value for the dollars we're putting out, or do we only get value for the dollars we're putting out when we have NGOs looking after it versus government? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister Chinna.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. This was a very unique situation that happened in the Beaufort Delta, and I don't look at practicing this going in the future. I want to more invest into education and training for NGOs. I want to more be able to partner with them. With this case, it was quite severe at that time. We were looking at extreme freezing temperatures. There was actually really no NGO that wanted to step up and take on the responsibility. We could not just leave this operation abandoned at that time. And we did have conversations with Indigenous governments. They weren't ready to take this on. They did establish a working group but there was really no commitment at that time from the community to run the operation and we fell into an obligation where we had to treat this as an emergency. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And I thank you for that answer. You know, when it comes to, you know, people who are, you know, basically nowhere to live, there's no doubt we have to -- you know, we have to step in and do something. But at the same time, you know, when we're spending money, what I'd like to see is that we actually get some value and we take a look and, you know, do an analysis to see if we're actually doing the right thing and going down the right path, because we seem to be putting -- you know, we seem to be putting money into different programs and there may be better ways to do it. So I'm not sure if, you know, if you have the staff to do those evaluations and look at other options. Maybe you just want to comment on that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister Chinna.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll take that back to the department as well because I don't want to take work away from, and the responsibility, from the nonprofit organizations. Like I had said, I'd rather support them. And I do know they're significantly underfunded, and this is something we recognize as well. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And I'm pleased to hear that you say that you recognize they are underfunded. Not only are they underfunded but they don't have any long-term funding as well. And I think if we want to see some success and make sure that we get good value that we extend those terms out with them. And yeah, so that's I guess just more of a comment. So thank you, that's all.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Are there any further questions under the executive from Members? No further questions. Thank you, we will move on to finance -- oh, okay. Member for Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just wanted to ask the Minister, the executive, about eight months ago we passed a motion to transfer public housing units that tenant lived in for over 20 years, for most of their life, where they raised their children. And today I just wanted to ask the Minister how many of those units were transferred?