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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

That's all. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Perfect. Are there any further questions from Members under the Municipal and Community Affairs, directorate? Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to talk about some of your contract services. Maybe can you maybe just explain to me, so I understand, how your contract services and procurement works? For example, in the flood in Jean Marie River, when that happened, it wasn't very long when I see in the Town of Hay River Arcan doing some work there. And I'm not really sure -- how does that work? Can you maybe help explain so I understand how the policy works on that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

For that detail, I'll turn to the deputy minister. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister.

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Gareau

Thank you, Madam Chair. So I believe the MLA's referring to our contracting work related to the flood. So just -- well, I'll back up.

Just generally as a department, we follow procurement rules. You know, go out to RFP or use a sole source mechanism. For the vast majority of departmental work, we go out to RFP but with -- when we're moving into the recovery phase for a disaster, as we did in 2021 and 2022, we do procure external assistance through the sole source mechanism because of the urgent nature of the work, for example, to get construction companies in to do emergency abatements, so things like ripping out the drywall, removing wet insulation. We want to get in there sooner rather than later. And so we do sole sources on an emergency basis. And we report on all of our contracting, whether it's through RFP or sole source, through the GNWT public registry. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm just thinking, you know, now that we talk about Municipal and Community Affairs and directorate and operation and spending and that kind of thing, I know -- I know with the housing corporation they have a whole department that does construction management and that kind of thing and they've been, you know, letting out tenders and contractors and RFPs etcetera for years. So I guess my question is to MACA when this flood happened, do you guys have a project management division in your department? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

No, we do not.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Madam Chair. Now that you don't have a project management department, so how is -- how does, for example, Jean Marie River they -- when the flood happened, I'm assuming that there's somebody that comes in there that does the assessment and then the next thing you know they -- then the requirements of project manager. How do you -- where do you go for your sole sourcing for your assessments or if you want to call them inspectors, and how is that project management tendered out, say in Jean Marie River they had the flood, so. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

For that detail, I'll turn to the deputy minister.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Deputy minister.

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Gareau

Thank you, Madam Chair. The GNWT has things like standing offer agreements or companies that have been preselected to do various types of work, and MACA refers to those. We also talk to our sister departments, primarily Infrastructure and Housing NWT, to assist us with, you know, recent experience they've had with contractors. But typically we rely on the information on the GNWT website in terms of who's available to do different types of work. And then we may procure them on a sole source basis. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you. Okay, I'm just trying to understand how the policy works and how your procurement works and that kind of thing. So I understand how the assessment is done. I know how the construction management is done. So it goes out to sole source contract and RFP, that kind of thing, or even as a standing offer agreement. When the standing offer agreement is done, how does that work? Thank you. Does that go out to RFP and contractors are selected and project managers are selected through this process? Can you explain that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. So we rely on advice from infrastructure, housing, and finance. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Madam Chair. And so I'm just trying to understand how this whole thing works. Okay, so the other question I now have is that my constituency in Deninu Kue, Fort Resolution, we have, you know, local contractors that have their own equipment, you know, that have their own trucks, gravel trucks. And, you know, they just -- they're small contractors, you know, in the community. They've done a lot of work over the years building the roads in Fort Resolution and that kind of thing. So, you know, like, I'm not really sure if MACA has reached out to the guys in Fort Resolution or the contractors there to help build capacity and to help get involved in some of these projects that are ongoing, whether it be the flood in Jean Marie or Hay River. I just want to know what are you guys doing to reach out to the contractors in Fort Resolution. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.