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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

Madam Chair, would the Minister clarify not specific to one? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. To if it's a community disaster, then that's what we look. But if it's only impacted with one individual, no, we wouldn't be doing that right now. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Anything further? Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

So as a government, we look at disasters in numbers, or we look at it as a great effect that happened in the community of Thebacha, of Fort Smith? We had the one individual lose his home, lose everything, and now they're using it for housing -- like, a housing duplex, NWT Housing duplex, and the senior is living in a little four by four there and paying top dollar. Is that the way we treat people in any kind of disaster? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. It's unfortunate these things happen but, again, the disaster assistance policy is the one we work with the federal government, and it is, again, multiple units or multiple homes that are impacted and that's how we deal with it. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

I'll do a statement, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I didn't know I had my hand up. So I think this is the section where work on ATIPP applying to municipal governments is supposed to be found. So can we get an update of where that work is at? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

For that detail, I'll turn to the deputy minister. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Gareau.

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Gareau

Thank you, Madam Chair. There's a working group in place made up of MACA, Department of Justice, and representatives from LGANT and NWTAC, and that group is looking at various options on what the structure would look like; like who would administer this, what the timing would be, and how much it would cost if there were, you know, training supports or other things put into place for community governments. So that work is ongoing. And I do have a draft report from that group that I'll be reviewing and speaking to Justice more about the different options on -- and when I talk about options, it's, you know, is there a body that could assist community governments; should each community government do ATIPP on its own; should MACA do it; should -- so there's different options. So that paper is with me right now for review and for further discussion with LGANT and NWTAC and Justice. And we anticipate having the finalized option done by the end of this fiscal year or early next fiscal year.

What is being contemplated is that, yes, all community governments would be brought under ATIPP, but it would likely be done in a phased approach with communities with greater capacity going first. And, again, but the timing of that is to be determined but it is definitely in process. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Yeah, no, thanks. No, I knew about the working group and as a former city councillor, I -- you know, Yellowknife actually has a pretty good records management system so it's probably not a huge issue for them, although a recent report might have me believe otherwise. But, yeah, I think it's more of an issue for the smaller communities where they may not have really good filing systems or staff and training and so on. So, okay.

So is it actually going to be brought into force for -- and a phased-in approach, yeah, probably the tax-based municipalities first. Is that going to be done before the end of this Assembly; is that the plan? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. No, it's still -- we're working. Again, like the deputy minister talked about, it's working with the NWTAC and LGANT to make sure -- like, we got the draft reports and we're working on that there. So it's going to take a little bit more time, so it won't be done by this Assembly. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks. I think my hopes were just dashed. All right. Well, anything you can do -- I understand that there was probably some slowdown because of COVID but I know that successive information and privacy commissioners -- well, at least one, made the recommendation for about 20 years in a row so it's an important area to get sorted out.

I want to move on to building standards legislation. I think we're the only place left in Canada that doesn't have a Building Standards Act, and this is part of the problem that having the fire marshal do all of this stuff rather than actually have a Buildings Standards Act where it could be -- would be sorted out at the front end. Is there any possibility, or is MACA even looking at this, because we're the very last jurisdiction in Canada that doesn't have this? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

So, yeah, so we are starting to work on some stuff but it'll be legislation that we recommend for the 20th Assembly. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks. I guess all my hopes are being dashed but I think that's something we'll have to look at in a transition report as well, Madam Chair. And you know, I want to give some credit to former MLA Bob Bromley who I know really tried to push this at one time, without much success. There was just no uptake from the Cabinet side, and this is something that's got to get fixed. I think that's all I've got, Madam Chair.