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Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you. Yes, happy to see that. As long as it exists, and then I would -- you know, I'll probably follow up before the end of this Assembly, just how it's going, after a few people have kind of gone through the process of using a contracted plan review function.

My next question is in regards to the 9-1-1 program. Can the Minister just provide the House an update on what their current shortfall is in funding 9-1-1 versus what we are getting from the revenues through a levy? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

The first part, we're back here on Thursday doing a technical thing to committee. So we'll be able to provide the first part of the answer that the Member was looking for. But for that detail, I'll turn to the deputy minister. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Gareau.

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Gareau

Thank you, Madam Chair. So we're in the process of actually trying to quantify whether or not we need to bring forward a request to increase the 9-1-1 levy. We're doing things like changing shift schedules and reviewing job descriptions to assist with recruitment of relief positions. And we're doing several actions on the operational side to see if -- to reduce costs, and we have been successful at that. And we're expecting to be in a position to make a determination about the levy in probably three or four more months. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. Can the Minister or the deputy minister help me understand what's going on with the City of Yellowknife? I've tried to deep dive on this issue, and I can't get my head around it. I know for the last few budgets, the Yellowknife city council has refused to buy dispatch software because they believe the GNWT should. I know that the City of Yellowknife has dispatchers, but they don't have the same level of training as ours, and there's this fight going on about who should have dispatchers. Can someone just give me an update about what is going on with regard to dispatch in the City of Yellowknife? And, yeah, I'll start there. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. So we are working with the City of Yellowknife with the city manager. We've had conversations. We're working together to address this very issue and other issues in regards to the 9-1-1 service. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Yeah, do we have an idea of when it should be resolved, that both parties feel content that, you know, calling 9-1-1 is safe? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Yes, thank you. So first and foremost, phoning 9-1-1 is safe. I'd like to make that publicly known. Right now, there is a bit of a situation in the city right now and so once that gets resolved, we'll be back working with the administration to get this resolved. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Yeah, "safe" is probably the wrong word. But I believe at one point the mayor publicly said that you shouldn't call 9-1-1 and you should continue to use their dispatch numbers, which I think is -- you know, we don't want to be the situation where we're fighting over which dispatch to call in an emergency. And this is clearly still ongoing because they cut the software again in the last budget. So I'm going to try once more. Can someone just explain to me what a possible path forward is here? Does it involve us making all of their dispatch staff GNWT employees? Does it involve us paying for their software? Does it involve them firing their dispatchers and us hiring more? I just don't actually understand the problem other than just no one seems to be happy. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Yes, thank you. So we've had better conversations with the administration. We think we're moving in a positive direction. For further detail, I'll turn to the deputy minister. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Gareau.

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Gareau

Thank you, Madam Chair. So the city manager and her staff and MACA staff have been working with an external consultant to look at 9-1-1 operations, both the operations of MACA and the city and how those operations interact. We have a draft report with a number of recommendations that we are -- the city manager and I are and staff are in discussions on that report. We are not yet ready to make that report public at this point and mainly because we want to have responses to the recommendations and a path forward that we can communicate to our staff and to the public and obviously to MLAs. But as the Minister noted, you know, that work is on a bit of a pause given the other priorities that the city has right now. And so the timing of when we will move forward on that is uncertain at this point. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, you know, I hope it's resolved at some point. I don't even -- yeah, that's all I'll say.

My next question is in regards to ground ambulance and highway rescue. I know we are not going to implement a territorial ground ambulance system. We do not have the money to do that. I think MACA cost it out a decade ago and it was tens of millions of dollars. But instead we have this $185,000 that I think ends up just causing far more headaches than it solves, and we never increase it. Is any progress being made on reviewing the funding we give a couple communities, which is barely anything, to make sure that they are still willing to take calls on highways when there's emergencies? Like, we know that this has saved many lives over the years and so we want to expand it, but $185,000 isn't going to do. So are we going to be increasing this ever? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. I can't speak for “ever.” I can speak of right now we have $185,000 that we split up between five communities. As the Member's talked about, this service was provided by those communities prior. To this, we've just been able to provide this funding that we have presently. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you.