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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just wanted to get some clarification there because, like I say, we have a large community of seniors in Hay River and, you know, with the increase in cost of living, increase in taxes and everything else that's going along and, you know, issues with healthcare in the community and no doctors, you know, we're going to tend to probably start losing people to the south here pretty soon because it's just going to be too costly to live. So I just want to -- I just want to make sure that, you know, the seniors are looked after and they do have disposable income as well, which is required for the community. So thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

I thank the Member for the comments.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Okay. Any more questions under regional operations? Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you. This is probably a quick question for me as well. When I take a look at the GNWT mandate when it was first put out in 2019 for the four year period of ending in 2023, one of the statements in here talks about the reduction of cost of power. And so this came out last year this time when the Minister came out and threw it out there that there's going to be a power increase and the power increase to the communities that I represent of Fort Resolution was 10 percent for the first year and second year. But the utility board made a ruling that what's going to happen now they're down 2.5 percent for increase in power. Even though that we heard a few weeks ago the Finance Minister made a -- in her budget address to the House here and saying that there'd be no new tax increase, I just want to ask this question to the Minister in regards to homeowners in the communities throughout the Northwest Territories. Are you going to be looking at raising any taxes this year on property taxes?

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

I don't think that this is -- property taxes are related to the communities, municipality governments, so. But I'll -- under taxation. But if you want to -- Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

So we do the assessment and if we don't have tax increase, then the -- then we don't have tax increase. If it's the municipality, the taxation is in the tax-based communities, they make their decision on their rates. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Any follow-up under regional operations?

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Because we already know that the high cost of living already is happening in the Northwest Territories. The fuel prices are going up, and everything else that's happening in our communities. So these assessments are done by the local people and the local governments, but. So I just want to know that as long as that we're on record here to say that there will be no new increases in keeping in line with the Finance Minister. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

That there I cannot speak for the Finance Minister. I can tell you we do an assessment. That's part of the process. And in regards to the taxation part, the Member should ask the finance minister. But I didn't hear it in the budget. So thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Madam Chair. So if you conclude your assessment for this fiscal year and then once you go through this whole assessment process and if you feel -- or is there -- if there needs to be an increase based on that assessment after that, are you going to be increasing the taxes at the local level? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Okay. So I'll ask the deputy minister to explain the assessment process. In regards to taxes, as I explained, that there should be asked to the finance minister. But for the assessment process, I'll ask deputy minister, with your permission, to elaborate. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Gareau.

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Gareau

Thank you, Madam Chair. So property taxes in the municipal taxation authorities are set by the community government. They're not set by the GNWT. It's the community government that determines the mill rate and the level of taxation. MACA's role is confined just to the assessment side where we -- and with our assessment information, we provide it to either the municipal taxation authority or to the Department of Finance for taxation and the GTA. MACA has no role in setting any property taxes. We just collect the information from the assessment and provide it to those entities that are responsible for taxation and for raising or lowering taxes. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Any further questions? Seeing none, Members, please return to page 352, Municipal and Community Affairs, regional operation, operations expenditure summary, Main Estimates 2023-2024, $100,999,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. $990,000, sorry. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Almost gave us $9,000 more. Okay, all right. Thank you. Let's turn to page 354 -- sorry, no. 356, school of community government, with information on page 357 and 358. Are there any questions on the school of community government. Seeing none. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I actually do have a couple questions here if I can. So with COVID, you know, the actuals were down pretty significantly in 2021-2022. The revised estimates are pretty close for 2022-2023. Is this, like, back up to where we were in pre-pandemic times? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of MACA.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

It's pretty close. Thank you.