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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll ask the deputy minister to respond.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Cecchetto.

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Cecchetto

Thank you, Madam Chair. If I understand the question right, so in this section there are only two positions that are being increased in the administrative and support services for the department of health and one position is the assistant deputy minister for finance, policy and planning, and the other one is a senior communications officer. And both of those positions are located in the department here in Yellowknife.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. Yeah, well the human resources increased to $1.06 million. So that's why I'm asking that, you know, and there's 80 administrative and support services even though that, you know, with the increase -- but there are still 80 administrative and support services positions located in headquarters. Can we have some of those jobs transferred to the region?

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I don't see that as practical. There is regional administration of the different health and social services authority, like the Tlicho Community Services Agency. But the department provides overall direction here in Yellowknife. I am not clear how it would work to have a few people in another location. Did you want to add on? The deputy minister would like to add on, please.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister.

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Cecchetto

Thank you, Minister. And thank you, Madam Chair. I would just add that for the Member's awareness, the authorities also have their own administrative-type positions that are located within their own authorities as well, similar to what we have at the department. And so, yes, those are located at the community level. And I just wanted to be able to explain that those similar positions are within the department as well as within the three health authorities.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. Yeah, when we talk to young people nowadays, you know, we tell them what -- you know, what's their career choice. They all -- they are always saying, you know, I don't know, you know. That's what they normally say because we don't have too many jobs for them that are, you know, situated in Tlicho region. Well, I'm speaking for Tlicho region. And so they have -- they feel like, you know, there's no other choice or they have no other choice because there's not too many in small communities. And a lot of administrative support where, you know -- but if there's more program and services and, you know, young people will have, you know, a better choice, can make a better choice, can make a good career choice. But we don't have too many. So that's why I'm asking that if we can have more or some of these positions transferred to the regions. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, thank you. I understand the Member's point. There's a very high rate of vacancies among nurses in the Tlicho region. So if I was giving a young person advice in the Tlicho region, I would suggest that they take a look at all the different healthcare professions to see if they could find one there that would meet their needs and that would then keep them in their community. And the same could be said for the social work program, which I was delighted to hear will be started up again next year. We would like to hire people who are trained locally to do these jobs. Where it's possible to decentralize, we have. For example, some of the community and cultural initiative people are not in Yellowknife and so if we can find someone who can do the work in another location, we have no problems hiring them. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Did you have anything further, Member for Monfwi?

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, we would like to have more of our young people going in to become a nurse, you know. But if our education system was better, was good like Yellowknife and other regional centre, larger regional centre, yes, we can graduate, we can send more, we can encourage. But it's going to take years some of them to upgrade. They have to go through upgrading. And, you know, like, a lot of them are behind as noted in the 2018 health status report. Our education system is low and our graduation system is also low. So, yes, we would like to encourage. We would like to encourage more young people to take the nursing programs. And we do have some Tlicho nurse, but they did not go to school in my region, in our region. They went to school somewhere else. So they have more -- you know, like they have more advantage than our Tlicho youth who were born and raised in our region. So, yes, we would -- it would be good, you know. I think that's what would -- that's what we've been doing, telling our young people to take nursing program, to take other health care -- healthcare programs and services. Even sonographer, you know, that's -- I heard quite a few young people they would like to get into that, you know, but we don't have the capacity because our education system, we lack a lot of program and services. And, you know, it's -- that's a disadvantage. Yes, that's -- that's the disadvantage. So -- and maybe Ms. Green can, you know, transfer more of those positions and can work with our young people and encourage them and support them because if the more young people see these positions in the small communities, then maybe they will make a good -- you know, a good career choice. Just like the sonographer which is possible. That can be situated -- that can be transferred to Tlicho region, and our youth can benefit from that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you to the Member for her comment.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Any further questions under this section? No? Okay, so Health and Social Services, administrative and support services, operations expenditure summary, 2023-2024, $54,550,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. We will now turn to health and social programs, beginning on page 198. Oh just wait, mixed up here; my pages are coming out.

Health and social programs, 198, with information on pages 199 to 201. Questions? Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I'm seeing that there is a decrease -- a small decrease but still a decrease in funding to child and family services. And I'm wondering if the Minister can speak to why we're seeing a slight decrease here and what's fuelling that? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll ask the director of finance to answer, please.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Ms. Johnson.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. That's funding that's being reduced as time limited funding for child and family services legal fees and just to be re-substantiated as needed.