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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Madam Chair, I have confirmed this is GNWT land, not -- it's not something belonging to another entity. So the Department of Lands at one time transferred this to ITI. It is, one way or the other, GNWT owned and not -- therefore, this dock would then be our responsibility which is why it's coming through this process. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Okay, thanks. So did that transfer happen within the last five or ten years, or do we know? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I mean, there's transfer from lands to ITI I can say, I believe, was within the last five years. Where and when it became a GNWT asset before that point, I don't know.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Okay, thanks. I guess I'm just a bit concerned that there might be potential contamination in the fill that was used for the dock, around the dock, and that we may have incurred some liability in accepting that property, which wouldn't be the first time, or at least the property back from the mining company. And I don't know, is there -- what, if any, responsibility does Miramar Con -- residual responsibility does it have with regard to remediation the dock if there's contamination there and so on. Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. So Madam Chair, point of clarity, Miramar does have its own dock so the two aren't to be confused, that there are different facilities in that area. This particular dock, when the Stantec Engineering assessment was done in 2022, they did take into account what remediation may be required, and so as I say, the amount that's being proposed here is taking into account what remediation work was recommended by the engineers in that assessment. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Okay, thanks. I'm interested in seeing the Stantec report. Can the Minister provide that to me even if it needs to be confidential, that's fine. But I'd like to see it myself. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I don't think there's any limitations to doing so under cover of confidentiality subject to being corrected. But assuming that that's fine.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Okay. No, that's fine. Look, I understand the value of the area. It is important. It's used recreationally now. I want to see it developed. I just want to make sure that it can be done safely and that we're -- in doing this project, we're not going to expose people or workers to stuff that they shouldn't be exposed to. So that's why I'm asking these questions, and I'm just wondering whether the company has any residual responsibility because I think it's adjacent or a part of their original operations over a number of years. So that's why I'm asking these questions, and these are the kinds of questions our government needs to -- somebody's singing Happy Birthday, I love it.

But these are the kinds of questions our government needs to ask and be sure of before they accept sites or even transfer sites back within and between departments and getting leased lands back from companies or individuals. Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I can say we have departments of ITI, infrastructure, lands have all been involved, and the Stantec professional engineers out of Vancouver who do marine assessments are the ones that were involved. So I am hopeful that the information we get to the Member will allay his concerns. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Any further questions? Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

No, thanks, Madam Chair. I thank the Minister for that. And, of course, since we've got only about a week left if I could get it before then, that would be helpful. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Are there any further questions under the economic diversification and business support? Member for -- sorry, Member for Deh Cho.

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Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ronald Bonnetrouge Deh Cho

Mahsi, Madam Chair. Yeah, this dock rehabilitation really caught my eye here. I wasn't aware that GNWT did this type of work or had funding to rehabilitate docks because I imagine there's many docks up and down the Mackenzie River, and specifically the dock at Fort Providence is in need of major repairs, and also the boat launch too is just a single little launch, you know, considering the amount of usage that area has, especially with lots of tourism in our community. They're launching out of every little nook and cranny that they could get at which are not recognized boat launch but the one in the community. What's the process to have -- to get dock repairs and have boat ramps built? Mahsi.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I would also be very keen to see more small craft harbours and accessibility to the waters all around the Northwest Territories, not the least of which would be around the Mackenzie and in Fort Providence and throughout the area. A lot of this does require the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, which is the federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans. I can see over the last couple of years we had hoped to have them more engaged and more involved in determining additional sites and locations for small craft harbours, but first there were some delays because they couldn't travel here during COVID and then the last couple of summer seasons were not necessarily the smoothest, if I may. So I mean, that process of getting access and changing accessibility to the waters really does involve a conversation with them. I can say that the DFO does have an office now in the Northwest Territories, which hopefully will make the process of engaging with them a little bit smoother. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Deh Cho.

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Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ronald Bonnetrouge Deh Cho

Mahsi, Madam Chair, and mahsi to the Minister for that. I'm just wondering why -- you know, if our community -- I was asking for a process of how we could get that in. Now you only mentioned one part of it there, getting DFO involved. What's DFO's involvement in anything like this? Mahsi.