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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Great Slave.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, you know, I have heard the Minister say this before but it's really disappointing that it took four years, or at least two, in order to have a couple line items put into the contractor's reporting regarding things like per diems, which I raised with her numerous times, and brought up in Cabinet when I first got in.

I ordered a procurement review to the Department of Infrastructure in the spring of 2020. We are now sitting at the fall of 2023, and a lot of the things that I directed them to do have not come forward and are taking four years to do.

In order to have a reporting sheet, which the federal government has been doing on this type of thing for decades now, it has taken this government four years to develop that. And I can tell them right now that their contractors still keeps the incidental piece of the per diems from their northern workers. So I don't have a lot of faith in this enforcement that's been going on or been put forward. It took way too long to come forward, and I don't think there's any teeth in it. When members or people can move to a community, rent a residential address, label that as their office address and become local to take away contracts from others in that region and therefore then be able to actually establish a business location in that town -- and I'm talking about your own town, Madam Chair, you know, they're very much gaming the system. So I really hope that the next Assembly takes this to heart because a lot of our money is going to the south and to people that have worked for this government before and are sitting with cozy pensions and are also still now taking money away from people here. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Did you have any further questions? Infrastructure, programs and services. Any further questions from Members? Seeing none.

Department of Infrastructure, programs and services, infrastructure investments, $72,334,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Members. Please return now to the department summary found at page 55.

Department of Infrastructure, 2024-2025 Capital Estimates, $201,079,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Does committee agree that consideration of Department of Infrastructure is now complete?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Committee, we will now consider the Department of Justice. Does the Minister wish to switch witnesses?

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, please.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witness from the Chamber.

Minister, would you please -- oh, sorry, welcome back, Ms. Melanson.

So Members, we are now considering the Department of Justice which begins on page 64. We will defer the departmental totals and review the estimates by activity summary beginning on page 65, with corrections, with information items on page 66.

Department of Justice, corrections, infrastructure investments, $780,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Turn next to page 67 for court services with information items on page 68. Department of Justice, court services, infrastructure investments, $700,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Members, please return now to the departmental total found on page 64.

Department of Justice, 2024-2025 Capital Estimates, $1,480,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Does committee agree that consideration of the Department of Justice is now complete?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, committee. Committee, we will now consider the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. Minister, did you need to change your witnesses for this department?

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

This department begins on page 70. We will defer the departmental totals and review the estimates by activity summary beginning on page 71 with community operations, with information on page 72.

Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, community operations, infrastructure investments, $22,201,000. Does committee agree? Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. Can someone just explain to me what's going on here with this line item? It was, last fiscal, the actuals were $18 million, and then we were advised -- sorry, two fiscals there was 18 then we were advised it was 66 and now it's 22. Can I just have a high level explanation of what's going on? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. This, I believe, arises because of the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Communities fund, and that is where we have seen a significant increase in, first, the revised and then in the revised estimates for 2023-2024. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.