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Member's Statement 372-20(1): Healthcare Experience Survey
Members' Statements

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As my colleague, Mr. Testart had said today, we're talking about health care and the survey we had discussed as well as the actions and desperate needs our citizens are suffering from. As noted by MLA Testart, we held a joint town hall, a conversation with the community, Mr. Speaker, around health care. It was desperately needed. The Minister of health was invited but declined and suggested a different date almost three months hence from the inquiry of when could you be available. Unreasonable scheduling I considered, but it is what it is. My good colleague in conversation said hey, let's offer more flexibility. We waited a week for a further response. And, Mr. Speaker, lest we forget, a nonresponse to come to a meeting is still a response.

But peculiar as that may be, Mr. Speaker -- and it is in its own way -- almost two weeks after our health care town hall discussion, she attended another Yellowknife MLA's meeting. I'm not suggesting anything bad. I'm just saying coincidence; I think not. Now, if she had attended our town hall meeting, the Minister would have seen firsthand, Mr. Speaker, the Baker Centre was filled to the brim. There was not a seat available. As a matter of fact, Mr. Speaker, I'd hate to call out the centre, but they were almost at fire capacity with enthusiasm, great people, respectful people, wanting to share their stories. They wanted to be heard. They had passion. They had problems. But they wanted to be part of the solution. There were stories to tell, I tell you, Mr. Speaker, deeply personal journeys that describe the trial by ordeals as they struggle to get help from anyone.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister would not have heard our professionals our terrible. No, she would not have heard that. But rather she would have heard great adjectives about these great teams. The only colourful adjectives used, Mr. Speaker, were "fantastic", "wonderful", "kind", and "caring", all perfect elements of our health care systems and the professionals that serve it so well.

It was a tough crowd, Mr. Speaker. Why? Because we had seniors who demand answers. And certainly, they do, Mr. Speaker. It was a passionate crowd. Mr. Speaker, some of their stresses were about availability of seeing a doctor, the referrals that never seem to get referred, the referrals that get re-referred, the questions and treatment by locums who get referred to another locum and then get followed up on a locum. You know, the passion of getting to know your doctor is impossible.

Later this afternoon, Mr. Speaker, I'll table a summary of our findings, and we'll have a further discussion as the week goes on, including today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 372-20(1): Healthcare Experience Survey
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Members' statements.

Member's Statement 373-20(1): Celebration of Life of James Bill Nahanni
Members' Statements

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Colleagues, James Bill Nahanni and his brother, George, were born to George and Dora Nahanni on December 3rd, 1945. As some folks said, they were an early Christmas present for their parents and siblings, Francis and Mabel.
During the Celebration of Life, a couple of stories had us laughing, like the time he would meet with a friend and his favorite saying was One for the Money, Two to get ready, and Three to go, go, go. Or when asked where was his wallet, he would reach to his back pocket and say, It's here, nice and safe.

James loved to drum dance. He was always the first one up and ready to dance. The chief spoke about his passion to dance and every time he would see him, he would ask when the next dance was going to be.

I can tell you that James was a vibrant, hard-working and humorous person. People loved to chat with him about everything but mostly about the old days, what it was like, and how were things different. In speaking with his children, John, James and Genevieve, they told me the one thing that everyone told them about their dad was how he loved his community and over the course of the last week of his life, they witnessed a lot of visitors coming to visit him, including drummers on Wednesday evening. They talked about how he wanted to get up and dance but realizing he could not, he sat up and listened to the live drum music in his home. That night, he went to sleep with a big smile on his face and the next morning he talked about the honour of the drummers being in his home.

Colleagues, it is very difficult to do justice to him but I think his daughter Genevieve did an amazing job during his eulogy. I have attached it to my statement, and I would like it deemed read and printed in Hansard.

Unfortunately, James passed away on August 25, 2024. On Wednesday, August 28th, he was laid to rest and later the community held a supper and one last drum dance for him. I believe he was looking down on us with a big smile as the family started the dance.

The family would like to thank the community for all the support during this difficult time. The outpouring of support relieved so much stress, and they were so grateful and appreciative for the kindness, thoughts, prayers, words, and deeds.

James will be sadly missed. God bless you, James.

Celebration of Life (Genevieve Piercey).

James Nahanni was a vibrant and humours man. He loved his community and over the course of the last week, we have witnessed the outpouring of love and respect his community had for our father.

Jim was Mabel's baby brother. She loves all her siblings very much, but Jim was the baby. Mabel was happy to help him all the time. She helped all her family with growing and learning. It has been her honor to help. Mabel has shared that she is happy that Jim is with the Lord and saviour. He is missed already but will be in our hearts forever.

A little story. When Jim was young and it was berry picking time, he was running around in the bush. Everyone left and Jim was left behind. George, his twin brother was running around yellowing. “Jim is missing!” they began to look for him, and when they went back to the first place, there was Jim, sitting next to a tree, resting.

Over the past few years, my father and I re-connected and became closer than we have been for many years. We have had many laughs and he has shared many stories with me about when I was a child and growing up. I am grateful for the time we had together and was honored to be able to be there for him to support him with his cancer diagnosis and treatment. During the last year, dad and I talked about his plans for his care, and he shared his greatest desire was to be at his home and in his community. I am honored that he entrusted this to his children. My siblings and I have been able to honor him with making his last requests happen. Jim was a blessed man to have such strong connections to his family, friends, and community. We will miss him dearly, but we are all blessed to have had him in our lives. My father always said, 'Take it easy' and 'See you later' when we ended our conversations. So, I will 'See you Later' Dad, and I will 'Take it easy' until we meet again.

Members' statements. Returns to oral questions. Minister of Health and Social Services.

Return to Oral Question 297-20(1): Wellness and Addictions Recommendations
Returns To Oral Questions

October 23rd, 2024

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a Return to Oral Question asked by the Member for Yellowknife North on June 13th, 2024, regarding Wellness and Addictions Recommendations The Minister's Forum on Addictions and Community Wellness: Healing Voices, which took place on April 30, 2013. Specifically, the Member asked if the department had addressed the recommendations made in the Healing Voices Report.

The Minister's forum consisted of 12 members who traveled to 21 communities to listen to Northerners about what they felt were the best ways to stop the destructive impacts of alcohol, drugs, and other addictions, on NWT communities. The Healing Voices Report included valuable feedback from community members that was then organized into recommendations. Of the 67 recommendations made, the Government of the Northwest Territories accepted 59. As requested by the Member, I have also provided a copy of a list which provides an update on Recommendations 7, 11, 29, and 54 for which the Department of Health and Social Services has responsibility. Later today I will also table of copy of this update on recommendations 7, 11, 29, and 54. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return to Oral Question 297-20(1): Wellness and Addictions Recommendations
Returns To Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Great Slave.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to recognize Vicki Johnson. She is a constituent of mine. She is doing good work with the Tin Can Hill conservation committee, and she is here today to see the exchange with the Minister. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Hay River North.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize the 8th Premier of the Northwest Territories, Mr. Stephen Kakfwi, who was in the gallery today; I'm not sure if he still is. In addition to being Premier, he served as a Cabinet -- survived as a Cabinet Minister for 16 years. I'd also like to welcome Kyla Kakfwi-Scott, the deputy secretary in the Premier's office and her daughter Sedia. I'm happy to welcome all three generations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we missed anyone in the gallery today, welcome to your chambers. I hope you are enjoying the proceedings. It's always nice to see people in the gallery and watch the hardworking Members.

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Acknowledgements. Oral questions. Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, if I had a longer Member's statement, I could probably talk for hours on this particular subject. But that said, there were a lot of concerns I did want raise and hence the question -- oral question period, sorry.

Mr. Speaker, one of the issues that was raised passionately about was being able to call for appointments, and the phone rings and rings and rings, finally takes a message, and it takes days for someone to reply if they reply. Some constituents have complained that no one even calls them back. Mr. Speaker, even my email to the Minister highlighting this took over five weeks to show up for a response what they're doing. So my question is is what is the Minister doing about the health care problems with respect to accessibility by calling in for appointments? Thank you.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Minister of Health and Social Services.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this issue has been on the books now and on the radar since -- you know, it's more -- it more happened more so when the lab changes happened that we do not have the technology within the hospital that allows for calls to be in queue and all that. And so there is work going on between -- NTHSSA is working with -- I think it's Infrastructure or TSC -- to ensure that this issue is being rectified. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, around the concerns of accessibility, when a person gets through or doesn't get through, they finally just show up and find out they can't get appointments for weeks or months. Mr. Speaker, what is the Minister doing again about in-person now accessibility to see a doctor? Thank you.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, you know, I will, you know, take the Member -- and, you know, we've heard this in Yellowknife that this has been an issue, and we've just recently moved into the new building this summer and started the primary care clinic. There are going to be, you know, wrinkles that come out. As for appointments, you know, if there are -- I can bring this back to NTHSSA to find out further information or what's the wait times or how -- and I've had other people come and say the opposite saying that they are able to get appointments, they are able to get walk-in appointments. So I will follow up with the NTH SSA to see where we're at with waitlists or how long it is to get an appointment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I'll certainly look forward to what I'm being told -- or sorry, looking forward to the Minister's response. And further to that question, the other issue is accessibility to their information, Mr. Speaker. So, of course, the Minister did say they've moved in there, but it's been five months.

The next problem of course is, as I said, accessibility of medical records. Patients aren't getting their records referred to south and they can't get the responses from their needs -- from their tests et cetera. So what can the Minister do to improve those rates, and does she track them? Thank you.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, you know, that level of information on record moving is very operational. And right now what we do know, and I have mentioned it in this house before, that our systems do not communicate with Alberta where a lot of our referrals go. So there is, you know, work going on right now to -- and I mentioned it in previous sessions that we are looking to upgrade the EMR, electronic medical records system, within the Northwest Territories. And with all of those options that have been raised by Members have been highlighted as things that we need to ensure that when we look to building a new electronic medical records system in the Northwest Territories that it's going to have all of those components in it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Final supplementary. Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just quickly, another clinic in town here, you can dial in and get your records through the internet obviously. I'm old. I say dial, but stream. Mr. Speaker, the dental clinic does phone follow-ups and check-ins, Mr. Speaker. Why is the technology so available, Mr. Speaker? I want to know what the Minister is doing, what -- I want to know what the serious blockage is, why a dental office can do services the health care system can't do, why a local medical clinic can do services, again a billion-dollar department can't seem to manage. Thank you.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we do know that there is technology out there. It's how are we going to implement it across the Northwest Territories. And that is what we are -- that's why we are looking at the EMR. We're not just going to look at it in one section and in one region as that's what we've done in the past, and then they don't even talk together. So we have to look at it as how we're going to roll it out throughout the Northwest Territories. And in the meantime, you know, one of the other barriers is some of this technology has to go through these privacy issues, is it safe enough to use for health information. So, again, these are issues that arise when we -- even to try and have a booking system online, there's so many layers that have to make sure that there's going to be no breach to this system to breach private health records. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 348-20(1): Healthcare Services
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Oral questions. Member from Great Slave.

Question 349-20(1): Aurora College Location
Oral Questions

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. As we are in the capital budget process, we're all aware that there is no new money for a new Yellowknife polytech campus. So can the Minister please explain why the issue of locating a campus on Tin Can Hill has been silent after much fanfare in 2023? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 349-20(1): Aurora College Location
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Great Slave. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Question 349-20(1): Aurora College Location
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the Member continuing to bring up the concerns of her residents around Tin Can Hill for much of the last ten months. The Tin Can Hill site was originally identified for the proposed Yellowknife North Slave Campus for Aurora College. The site is currently owned by the city of Yellowknife, so some work needed to be done to assess whether or not it was an appropriate location to consider. So prior to any potential land transfer, an environmental site assessment was required to be done. There was a phase one that was done. At the completion of phase one, it was recommended that more information was needed. So phase two was initiated. Of course, phase two, with evacuation last year, the sampling that was required could not happen last year, and so there was a delay in that process. That process was completed this summer, and a series of technical reports were produced. And what I am waiting for now is all of that technical report information to be consolidated and then look forward to being able to publicly share that information. Thank you.

Question 349-20(1): Aurora College Location
Oral Questions

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, you know, the Minister told me last fall that the ESA would be ready in March 2024, and then it was May 2024, and now it's nearly November. In more recent conversations, the Minister has asked me to reach out to the board to ask more questions about the specifics but then the board turned around and told me to talk to ECE. So that's why we're here today. Regardless, however the ESA turns out, however the technical report turns out, positive or negative for development, what is the intent for the MOU with the city? Will we terminate the MOU, or will we just delay a choice over and over and over again? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 349-20(1): Aurora College Location
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will admit that there are some fine lines between what decisions were made with the GNWT and what decisions will ultimately be the board of governors for Aurora College. So I will acknowledge the Member's frustration and that, but I'm happy to continue that conversation.

The phase two of the site assessment is now done. It is highly technical information that I'm going to be honest that is something that I need to be able to work with the experts within multiple departments in order to understand what is required so that I can make sure that I'm passing along accurate information to the Member. So phase two is now done. All partners involved in that being the Aurora College board, the city of Yellowknife, and also the GNWT, will ensure that everybody is receiving the same information so that we can ensure that we're working together to communicate that information. I want to apologize to the Member for the delay in that but also want to ensure that we have accurate information that we are able to share publicly. Thank you.