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This is from the 20th Assembly, 1st Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

Topics

Members Present

Hon. Caitlin Cleveland, Mr. Edjericon, Mr. Hawkins, Hon. Lucy Kuptana, Hon. Jay Macdonald, Hon. Vince McKay, Mr. McNeely, Ms. Morgan, Mr. Morse, Mr. Nerysoo, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Ms. Reid, Mr. Rodgers, Hon. Lesa Semmler, Mr. Testart, Mr. Thompson, Mrs. Weyallon Armstrong, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Mrs. Yakeleya

The House met at 1:31 p.m.

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Prayer
Prayer

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you. Colleagues, I'd like to thank Sarah Cleary for the opening guiding words.

Ministers' statements. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Minister's Statement 54-20(1): Funding Opportunities for Mental Wellness and Addictions Recovery Programs
Ministers' Statements

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to remind Members of the funding made available by the Department of Health and Social Services supporting the delivery of community-based programs focused on mental wellness and addiction recovery. These funds were created in response to engagement with Indigenous governments in which they asked the GNWT to provide more flexible funding that could be used to run programs in their own communities and regions that would be responsive to the needs of Indigenous people.

Mr. Speaker, I am proud of the Department of Health and Social Services in our responsiveness to these needs, and I am pleased to share information about this available funding. Every year, $3.05 million is available through the Department of Health and Social Services Community Wellness and Addictions Recovery Fund. This fund prioritizes Indigenous governments and supports the delivery of culturally-relevant community-based options for residents living with mental health and addictions issues. Created in 2023-2024, in response to feedback from the NWT Council of Leaders, it is the combination of the On the Land Healing Fund, Addictions Recovery Peer Support Fund, and Addictions Recovery and Aftercare Fund. The intention of this merger was to reduce the administrative burden on Indigenous governments and to enhance flexibility when identifying priorities and allocating resources. This funding opportunity was opened to community governing authorities and other community organizations on April 1st.

The second fund the Department administers is the Community Suicide Prevention Fund. This fund supports communities in the development and delivery of culturally safe community-based programs focused on suicide prevention, awareness, and stigma reduction. It is also available to support communities interested in developing or implementing their own suicide prevention strategies. The amount of this fund is $725,000 annually, and one project per community can be approved. This fund is available to a wide variety of community organizations.

There is a very simple application form for these funds, and the department staff are available to support communities through the application process, answer any questions, and provide feedback about potential activities if needed. Indigenous governments are well-positioned to understand the unique needs of their communities, and community-based programming is a critical part of our overall mental wellness and addictions services.

Mr. Speaker, funding is still available in both funding pots, and I am hopeful that communities will work with the department to take advantage of these opportunities to further enhance community supports. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Minister's Statement 54-20(1): Funding Opportunities for Mental Wellness and Addictions Recovery Programs
Ministers' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Ministers' statements. Members' statements. Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Member's Statement 281-20(1): Inuvik Petroleum Show
Members' Statements

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in 2001, Inuvik hosted the first annual Inuvik Petroleum Show. It was inspired by the impending announcement that the Mackenzie Valley pipeline was on the horizon, and Inuvik's economic future looked bright. The town was bumping, Mr. Speaker. You could barely find a parking spot downtown. The hotels were busy, the restaurants were crowded, and people were working in the exploration industry. Tour operators were busy, and artisans were selling their products. Mr. Speaker, residents were excited at the prospect of burning clean locally sourced natural gas to heat their homes at a price that would allow them to live without having to worry how they'll get through another winter. Certainly not the $40 per gigajoule they currently must pay for gas shipped to Inuvik from southern sources.

Mr. Speaker, over 700 people attended the show in its early days. Celebrities and prominent political speakers attended, journalists such as Amanda Lang, Andrew Coyne, and the late great Rex Murphy, all made appearances to speak to delegates and Indigenous leaders leading the pipeline project to see for themselves what the buzz was all about. Mr. Speaker, the president of KOGAS flew from Korea to meet with industry and Indigenous leaders to explore opportunities for trillions of tonnes of clean burning natural gas.

As we know, Mr. Speaker, the regulatory system flexed its muscle, and six years later the pipeline dream was no more. But good news, Mr. Speaker. The good news is that the community of Inuvik soldiered on, and the show, now called the Inuvik Expo, still exists. It had to adjust, just as our counterparts in Ottawa have adjusted its priorities around energy development. This week, Mr. Speaker, over 200 delegates are in Inuvik discussing such things as natural gas and renewable resources, climate and energy innovation, Indigenous leadership and circumpolar governance and sovereignty and the knowledge economy, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to applaud and congratulate the hardworking members of my town council, Indigenous governments, and our government for keeping this show relevant and continuing to push for all economic opportunities in our region. Mr. Speaker, like the resilient and hardworking residents of our community, I too will soldier on. I will continue to advocate for the development of this resource. I will continue to advocate for the Indigenous government who are currently developing their own natural gas facility to provide some relief to our residents.

Mr. Speaker, I sometimes think I have a better chance of getting support for a unicorn farm in Inuvik than support for our natural gas. But sadly, unicorn tears will not heat the homes and provide prosperity for people living in the Beaufort Delta, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Member's Statement 281-20(1): Inuvik Petroleum Show
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Inuvik Boot Lake. Members' statements. Member from Great Slave.

Member's Statement 282-20(1): Change of Name Act
Members' Statements

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I tend to keep tabs on other governments' legislation and initiatives. Something that made me very happy, indeed, back in April, was hearing that the Manitoba government put forward Bill 33. It received assent last week, Mr. Speaker.

Manitoba's Bill 33 makes amendments to the Manitoba Change of Name Act and will further clarify in law that trans and nonbinary folks will not be published in the Manitoba gazette under their dead name which changing their legal name during transition. Being dead named is an extremely traumatic experience for many.

I was able to seek clarification from our wonderful NWT Assembly research staff that there are already allowances in our own NWT change of name legislation for trans folks not to be published in our gazette when changing a name; however, when a trans person goes online to find out how they can apply for a change of name, that option is not discussed in any way on the HSS website, nor is it captured in the change of name application form.

The Minister has let me know that trans and gender diverse folks seeking a name change can call the registrar of vital statistics at 1-800-661-0830 toll free to request an exemption in their application. The Minister also noted that removing the requirement for publicly posting changes of name in the gazette is something the department is considering as part of planned amendments to the Change of Name Act. As the application for a change of name form is found in associated regulations, changes to the form will require amendment as well.

Now, while this is a good start, I still have more questions around how we can make interactions with the health system more safe and inclusive for gender diverse folks, and those questions for the Minister of health, I'll have them at the appropriate time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 282-20(1): Change of Name Act
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Great Slave. Members' statements. Member from the Sahtu.

Member's Statement 283-20(1): Sahtu Graduation Season
Members' Statements

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 2024 graduation. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to acknowledge and celebrate the accomplishments of the Sahtu region's high school graduates. These young adults have reached an important milestone in their lives, completing their secondary education and preparing to embark on their further new education journeys.

Mr. Speaker, education is the key to unlocking a brighter future, and these graduates have certainly demonstrated their commitment to personal growth and development. They have acquired valuable knowledge and skills that will serve them well into the future endeavours. Whether they choose to pursue higher education, enter the workforce, or explore other opportunities, education by itself provides security, deserves recognition, and needs our investment. It is vitally important for the future and stability of the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, I encourage these graduates to continue learning, to embrace challenges as opportunities for growth, and to use their education to make positive contributions to their communities and to the world around them. The Sahtu region is proud of their achievements, and we look forward to seeing them all as they accomplish in the coming years.

Mr. Speaker, I look forward to travelling to the Sahtu communities after our spring sitting. These graduation ceremonies await. Some have occurred, some are yet to come, and stand alongside the proud parents, leaders, grandparents, brothers, and sisters, and most importantly the education staff.

Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Sahtu region and this Assembly, I extend my heartfelt congratulations to the NWT graduate classes. May they continue to strive for excellence, pursue their dreams with passion, and make their mark on the world. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 283-20(1): Sahtu Graduation Season
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from the Sahtu. Members' statements. Member from Monfwi.

Member's Statement 284-20(1): Changes to Student Financial Assistance Offerings for Indigenous STudents
Members' Statements

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to acknowledge the good work done in the last Assembly by the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, who is now the Honorable Premier. In the 19th Assembly, the Minister of ECE made changes to the Student Financial Assistance program where the 12-semester limit, or $60,000 cap on funding, was removed for Indigenous students. Mr. Speaker, this is an incredible offering to the Indigenous students of the NWT. This support makes education more accessible and equitable.

Mr. Speaker, we know the education outcomes of Indigenous people in the NWT are well below non-Indigenous. Non-Indigenous students graduate high school at a rate of 70 to 80 percent but Indigenous students are graduating at only a rate of 40 to 50 percent. The graduation rate is higher in Yellowknife than anywhere else in the NWT, although graduation rates in the regional centres are close behind. Mr. Speaker, clearly students in small communities are disadvantaged and require extra services and support to achieve equity in education.

Mr. Speaker, education is a treaty right, and providing this unlimited SFA support truly means that Indigenous students can have a dream and now have the means to achieve the knowledge which can make those dreams reality. A lot of students in small communities can now use SFA to upgrade after high school so they can get into college or university and feel comfortable and ready for post-secondary education. Without a cap or limit on the amount of funding they can access, students in small communities are set up for success. Now Indigenous students can access SFA for the things they need to do, whether it be upgrading or pursuing the highest level of education they can dream of. Mr. Speaker, can I have unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

Mr. Speaker, this government has a major task to improve education outcomes in the NWT, but there have been good actions taken along the way. I want to acknowledge and thank the Minister of ECE from the 19th Assembly for changes in policy to support Indigenous students, most especially those in small communities. Thank you.

Member's Statement 284-20(1): Changes to Student Financial Assistance Offerings for Indigenous STudents
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Monfwi. Members' statements. Member from Yellowknife North.

Member's Statement 285-20(1): Emgergency Shelters
Members' Statements

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to draw attention to the growing population experiencing homelessness in Yellowknife and the non-profit emergency shelters whose capacity is being completely overwhelmed. The last time the city of Yellowknife did a point-in-time count in 2021, it was estimated that at least 312 people were experiencing homelessness in Yellowknife, the vast majority of whom are Indigenous, and 99 people at that time were staying regularly in emergency shelters. But the numbers have gone up a lot more since then.

The stress of COVID lockdowns resulted in more violence in many homes. Since then many more women and youth, in particular, have been seeking emergency shelter. The series of evacuations last summer caused most of our territory to be displaced from their home communities, and many ended up on the streets of Yellowknife. Some of those who were evacuated from Yellowknife returned from southern provinces with some new friends in tow.

Recently, I met with the Salvation Army which is within the Yellowknife North riding. It provides an emergency men's shelter every night with 31 sleeping spaces. It also operates the Bailey House, which is a 32 bed men's transitional housing facility, including four private rooms reserved for those coming out of jail. Now, normally as the weather gets warmer and sleeping rough becomes more of an option, numbers in emergency shelter would start to dwindle, but the Salvation Army is currently at over double its capacity every single night. They are trying to pack over 60 people into cramped rooms with mats laid out on the floor. They are working with people under the influence of harder drugs who are more severely intoxicated than they've seen before. Predictably, this results in more violence amongst shelter users and against staff. Many of the longer-term shelter users are now terrified to be there in the same cramped space as a younger and tougher crowd, but they have nowhere else to go. The RCMP and the ambulance are being called multiple times each night and this, of course, does not really solve anything. In this kind of an environment, you can't even offer people basic safety, let alone counselling or medical treatment, or pathways to a different life. Mr. Speaker, I'm worried our shelter system in Yellowknife will collapse if we don't urgently find better solutions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 285-20(1): Emgergency Shelters
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife North. Members' statements. Member from Range Lake.

Member's Statement 286-20(1): Folk on the Rocks
Members' Statements

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, the start of summer means the countdown beginning for the world-renowned Folk on the Rocks music festival hosted every year in my beautiful Range Lake riding. Since 1980, this proud tradition has showcased the very best of the North's musical talent and has brought nationally and internationally renowned musicians to the NWT, delighting festival goers and giving these talented performers some northern exposure.

It's now in its 44th year. The festival features talented local northern groups, such as Amy and the Easy Hundo, Branded Sonic, Refrigerator, Narwhal, Grace Clarke, Tanya Snow, and the David Gon Band. They will also feature performances from acts such as the Aurora Fiddle Society, Glam on the Rocks, Taiga Yoga, and the Yellowknives Dene Drummers. It's no surprise Range Lake's Folk on the Rocks has been named the Best Small Music Festival in Canada. The hard work of the Folk on the Rocks organizing team ensures an expectational experience for attendees year after year. The combination of their dedication and the exceptional talent they attract provides more than a great time for Northerners. It also brings in tourists from all over the world as well.

Folk on the Rocks also provides an amazing opportunity for volunteers, young and old, to enjoy the event while facilitating arts and culture in the North. So if you and a friend want to come and help out this year, you're more than welcome to. The festival takes place between July 19th and the 21st, and all are invited to the Warm the Rocks free public event at the Somba K'e Civic Plaza on the afternoon of July 19th to kick things off. Tickets are for sale now at folkontherocks.com where the final stage schedule has just been posted. They're available for purchase on location as well. Let's rock, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 286-20(1): Folk on the Rocks
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Range Lake. Members' statements. Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Member's Statement 287-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Members' Statements

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, another school year draws to an end, and it's a good time to reflect on Indigenous education in the North. We all want the best education for our children but unfortunately, like all public services, education exists in a long shadow of colonialism and systemic racism, and this means First Nation communities have a different experience with education system in addition to having their own unique needs.

Treaty rights have been trying the rights to education for Indigenous people, and those treaties are themselves enshrined in the Canadian Constitution but work still needs to be done to realize those rights and to the full extent. Thankfully, Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories has recently committed to implementing the United Nation Charter of Rights of Indigenous people here in the North, which means bringing their laws into alignment with the rights outlined in that document, including the rights to the improvement of economic and social conditions and implementation of treaties and in consultation and cooperation with Indigenous people.

UNDRIP has a lot to say when it comes to Indigenous education, specifically as well including the rights to establish and control their education system and institution and access to all level and forms of education of the state without discrimination and that particular attention should be paid to the rights and needs of our children. Mr. Speaker, we need to bring our territory education up to standards laid out in UNDRIP in accordance with the rights enshrined in the Canadian Constitution and our treaties because the status quo is not working. It is not getting enough Indigenous children through the high school, and children graduate after six years of high school education. Then the institute of financial systems forces Indigenous students, who graduate high school, to pick between supplementary grants or remissible loans. Either does not meet the needs and the federal CIRNAC money partially funds this program, so they should have access to both and having this supplementary grant is also discriminatory.

Fixing this barrier to Indigenous students and students financial assistance is a short-term solution but my constituents have brought to my attention that there are many long-term solutions as well. The previous Assembly passed the UNDRIP Implementation Act in this time to bring legislation aligned with UNDRIP and find the solution to education UNDRIP mandates us to implement. I look forward to question the Minister of ECE on some of these solutions later today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 287-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. Members' statements. Member from the Deh Cho.

Member's Statement 288-20(1): Mental health
Members' Statements

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we know in the NWT our people are struggling with mental health challenges. Just over 56 percent of people in the NWT rate themselves as mentally well; so that's people that are thinking good about themselves. Indigenous people, and particularly former RS - residential school students - and people that went to residential school rate themselves a little lower than that as being mentally well.

Mr. Speaker, this is heartbreaking. We know in the NWT we have high rates of smoking, poor diets and activity, and heavy drinking. And, Mr. Speaker, and all of these stem from the mental health issues. When we're not mentally well, we become unwell physically, emotionally, and even spiritually.

Mr. Speaker, we cannot separate our mind from our body. Our mind, body, and spirit are closer to our overall well-being, and we must give our communities the tools to take care of all these parts of themselves. We must nourish our mind to be in good working order for ourselves and our families and for our communities. There are many threats facing our communities. Our community members are turning to drug and alcohol, violent crimes, and they struggle with low self-esteem and mental health challenges.

Mr. Speaker, how do we lift up and empower people to become mentally strong and resilient? People who struggle with addictions can only recover by choice. People will only help themselves as much as they choose to. What can we do to empower people to choose well for themselves?

As a fallout of colonization, people are hesitant to trust from trusting the traditional way that have sustained ourselves for generation to trusting government services and programs. Trust is a big issue. Our residents need to know they are supported and cared for because many people feel alone.

Mr. Speaker, no one should feel alone, but this is what's happening today. Some of our people are suffering. They are fighting their battles silently and behind closed doors. I would like to see more programs and supports that help our residents get back to healthy mental balance. I will have questions for the Minister of health later today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 288-20(1): Mental health
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from the Deh Cho. Members' statements. Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Member's Statement 289-20(1): Supports for Autism
Members' Statements

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For families, friends, and supporters of autism parents and families, the struggle is real and it's day-to-day. It's certainly not for the faint of heart. Mr. Speaker, when you're on the vanguard of this problem every single day, this challenge, my heart goes out to those folks who are dealing with this. They are truly angels that that keep their families together.

Mr. Speaker, we all know the spectrum of autism ranges from some challenges to a lot of challenges, and each one is unique but each one is important. You know, I wish that one day, Mr. Speaker -- to be clear, I wish one day there is a cure. But until those days, we must not abandon these parents to make sure that they know that their lives matter and we're with them through these challenges. But like many challenges before us, there has been so many facts and proofs out there that socialization is so critical during the formative years. So lest we forget that the important thing that happens is focus is right now on the young child, but children become teens, and teens become adults. So formative, constructive supports are critical because that's who they will become with or without them.

The GNWT offers some supports, it's true, but when you're in a small community you have very little supports so what do you do? You move to a regional centre. And then you quickly realize that regional centres don't have any supports, or more supports, so they move to Yellowknife. And lo and behold, when they get to Yellowknife, they quickly learn there's nothing or very little here. So what do they do? They leave the territory, Mr. Speaker.

The pittance offered for people struggling with autism is so small between the years of zero to six, parents are constantly searching for opportunities. As a matter of fact, it's created a competitive process where they're constantly fighting behind the scenes keeping ideas and opportunities secret rather than becoming a supportive network as they rightly should. So in other words, they're hiding opportunities when they hear, I hear there's one opening in this place, but I can't tell anyone, rather than saying I hear an opening in these places, let's make sure everyone gets a shot.

Mr. Speaker, the science proves very clearly engagement, therapy, physical, and verbal supports, are absolutely necessary in the early years and the people that only end up doing this are the parents who have to either stay at home or make the sacrifices that their work will kindly support them.

Mr. Speaker, I have much more for my Member's statement. I won't seek unanimous consent, but I'll raise the further issues in my oral questions about how we can help these people with better policy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 289-20(1): Supports for Autism
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Members' statements. Member from Thebacha.

Member's Statement 290-20(1): Frank Gruben Pride Festival
Members' Statements

Jay MacDonald

Jay MacDonald Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to draw attention to an event of special cultural and social importance in Fort Smith, the Frank Gruben Pride Festival scheduled to take place June 14th to 16th, 2024. This free community festival serves as a beacon of inclusivity, solidarity, and remembrance. The Frank Gruben Pride Festival provides a safe haven for Members of the LGBTQIA2S+ community and their allies to honour the memory of Frank Gruben, a missing Indigenous person. In a world where safety and acceptance are not always guaranteed, events like this play a critical role in fostering a sense of belonging and dignity.

Mr. Speaker, what makes this festival truly special is its diversified approach to advocacy and celebration featuring local musicians, drag artists, and crafts people, including talents from Fort Smith and various communities across the Northwest Territories. The event serves as a platform for artistic expression and cultural exchange through the sale of their art, participants show solidarity and support for causes close to our hearts, including missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls, LGBTQIA2S+ rights and the memory of Frank Gruben.

Mr. Speaker, beyond its artistic and cultural offerings, the Frank Gruben Pride Festival is a vehicle for education and awareness. Through conversations and celebration, we aim to uplift Indigenous, Metis, Inuit, and the LGBTQIA2S+ voices, artists and businesses, enriching our collective understanding of diversity and inclusion.

Mr. Speaker, I encourage my fellow Members to join me in supporting the Frank Gruben Pride Festival and its mission to create a more just and compassionate society. Let us stand together in celebrating the richness of our community and honouring the memory of those who have been lost. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 290-20(1): Frank Gruben Pride Festival
Members' Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Thebacha. Members' statements.

Member's Statement 291-20(1): Laura Gareau Retirement
Members' Statements

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Colleagues, on April 19, 2024, Laura Gareau retired from the GNWT. Unfortunately, I was not able to congratulate her in person. I heard it was a very enjoyable event and a few laughs were had.

Colleagues, Laura's public service career started with the Government of Manitoba, right after she graduated from University of Manitoba with a Master's of Public Administration. After a period with the Government of Manitoba, she decided to take an adventure and moved to the Northwest Territories. It was not going to be a permanent move but like most folks that move up North, she fell in love with the city, her new friends, and working for the Government of Northwest Territories.

I am happy to say that she had a varied and successful 25-year career with the GNWT. Laura started as an FMB analyst going on to work in seven different departments and eventually become deputy minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. In all those roles, Laura had modelled the characteristics of a true public servant through her commitment to improving the lives of NWT residents and activities of our communities while balancing those objectives that need to be accountable to the public. She has reminded us of the importance of speaking truth to power, as well as the role of public servants to implement the mandate and priorities of the government that we all serve.

During our time working together, we were able to get done a lot done in two and a half years. Just to name a few, the EMO, DFAA, completing the municipal funding pots in the 19th Assembly even though it was set for the 20th. Oh, and how I forgot - the two years of floods and last year's wildfires season when we had to evacuate 11 communities which was over 70 percent of our residents.

As I said, we had a few laughs which I would like to share one with you here today. After the 2021 flood, the DM and Laura spent weeks trying to come up with a plan on how they were going to convince me to move five regional Sport North positions to EMO positions. They even spoke to my MSA to see how I would react to this idea. I still remember how they both looked after presenting the idea to me, and I agreed with them. It was like the Ikea commercial, remember when the wife comes running out of the store telling her husband to start the car before the Ikea could change their mind about the stuff they sold her.

Colleagues, before I close, I have part of the speech done by the ADM at her retirement party that I would like demeaned read and printed in the Hansard.

In closing, I would like to thank her for all her service and improvements for our residents' life. I wish her all the best on her next adventures. Thank you.

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Laura is also known for her commitment to excellence. Over her long career, Laura has been recognized as a high achiever who likes to "get things done". She sets high expectations for her team, but also for herself. Laura brings a strong policy lens and exemplary critical thinking and analytical skills, as well as a commitment to improving processes and striving for excellence to every project she has worked on.

She spearheaded several major policy and functional changes in the GNWT, including the "New Deal", the transformation of the health and social services system, including the establishment of the NWT Health and Social Services Authority and oversight of the evaluation report of the Education Renewal and Innovation Initiative. More recently, at MACA she also undertook the first comprehensive review of the Disaster Assistance Program in 26 years and updated both the Disaster Assistance Policy and the NWT Emergency Plan, which will be released publicly on Monday.

Laura's time at MACA has been marked by three consecutive years of the most challenging natural disaster events in the NWT's history. Through all of this, Laura really has kept a steady hand on the helm and never wavered from her commitment to achieving the best results possible. Few know how hard she has worked to support the GNWT, community governments, and all of the residents of the NWT to get through these emergency events.

Finally, I think we all know that Laura is committed to enjoying life and we have all benefitted from the good humour she brought to our everyday working life over the past few years. Laura has an infectious laugh and can see the funny side of most situations. Even at the bleakest of times, she has made us laugh. Her sense of humour has helped set the tone and got all of us collectively through some really tough times, especially over the past year.
On a personal note, I have to say how much I have enjoyed working so closely with you these past few years.

I have learned so much from you and really appreciated all of your insight, advice and support. We accomplished a lot but, most of all, we had a lot of fun. Thank you for everything and I wish you many happy years of adventures and personal fulfillment. Enjoy your retirement.

Members' statements. Recognition of visitors in the gallery.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Colleagues, before we go to you, I'd like to recognize a special young lady in the audience, Colleen Wilbert. Thank you very much for coming here and keeping track of your husband. You know, he's well behaved today because you're here. So thank you. Member for Range Lake.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize a constituent of mine, who also happens to be my lovely wife, the love of my life, Colleen. She's here today, and whilst I have been here working on behalf of all of our neighbours she's been holding down the fort at home, and I couldn't do it without her. Thank you so much for being here.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Visitors in the gallery. Member from Thebacha.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Jay MacDonald

Jay MacDonald Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize two young people from P.W. Kaeser High School who are here as pages today - Anthony Roberts and Shane Subertuk. Thank you for being here, and we appreciate your service.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Yellowknife North.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize -- I can't see him but Tony Brushett, the executive director of the Salvation Army, who is a Yellowknife North resident as well as the Salvation Army itself being within my riding. Thank you.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife North. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize a constituent. She's well known to all of us. It's Ms. Sarah Cleary. She's not only one of our wonderful and dependable translators who's served the House for so many years, she's also known as the sewer extraordinaire. So anyway, thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the opportunity to wish her well. Thank you.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Recognition of visitors in the gallery.

If we missed anybody, we'd like to thank you very much for being here in your House and allowing us to do our job for the residents of the Northwest Territories.

Reports on committees on the review of bills. Reports of standing and special committees. Member from Range Lake.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Deemed Read, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, your Standing Committee on Public Accounts is pleased to provide its Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts.

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member for Nunakput, that Committee Report 7-20(1), Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, be deemed read and presented in Hansard in its entirety. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Deemed Read, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Range Lake. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Deemed Read, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Deemed Read, Carried
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The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? The motion is passed.

---Carried

*insert report link

Member from Range Lake.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Received and Adopted by the Assembly, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member from Nunakput, that Committee Report 7-20(1), Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, be received and adopted by the Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Received and Adopted by the Assembly, Carried
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The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Range Lake. The motion's in order. To the motion.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Received and Adopted by the Assembly, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Received and Adopted by the Assembly, Carried
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The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? The motion passed.

---Carried

Member from Range Lake.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Response by Government within 120 Days, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Nunakput, that pursuant to Rule 9.1(5)(a), the Government of the Northwest Territories table a comprehensive response to this report, including all recommendations, within 120 days, or at the earliest opportunity subsequent to the passage of 120 days.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Response by Government within 120 Days, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Range Lake. The motion's in order. To the motion.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Response by Government within 120 Days, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Report 7-20(1): Standing Committee on Public Accounts Report on the Review of the 2022-2023 Public Accounts, Response by Government within 120 Days, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? The motion is passed.

---Carried

Reports of standing and special committees. Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Report 8-20(1): Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on Committee's Initiation of a Project to Conduct a Review of the Land and Water Permitting Regulatory Framework
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment is pleased to provide its Report on Committee's Initiatives of a Project to Conduct a Review of the Land and Water Use Permitting Regulatory Framework and commends it to the House.

SCOPE OF REVIEW

Mr. Speaker, the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment committee (the "committee") would like to inform the 20th Legislative Assembly that committee is in the early stages of conducting a review of the regulatory framework for land and water use permitting under the Mackenzie Valley Resources Management Act, and its operational effectiveness. The MVRMA provides the overarching framework for a robust regulatory regime and committee would like to evaluate the underlying process and requirements, and their interpretation by all parties, to ensure the spirit and the intent of the MVRMA is being met, and to assess the GNWT's role in the system.

Committee's review intends to build on the work already done by subject matter experts across the land and water boards, Indigenous governments, and the Government of the Northwest Territories, the Government of Canada, and other stakeholders who interact with the land and water use permitting process.

Committee has particular interest in examining how the GNWT can provide further supports, make changes where needed and appropriate, and consider ways to enhance the capacity of parties to meaningfully participate in the land and water use permitting process. It is committee's intent to prepare a report on the findings which will describe committee's observations and recommend targeted actions and interventions the GNWT should consider for improving the administration, efficiency, and effectiveness of the regulatory framework.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Report 8-20(1): Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on Committee's Initiation of a Project to Conduct a Review of the Land and Water Permitting Regulatory Framework
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Report 8-20(1): Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on Committee's Initiation of a Project to Conduct a Review of the Land and Water Permitting Regulatory Framework, Received and Adopted by the Assembly, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member for Frame Lake, that the Committee Report 8-20(1), Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on the Committee's Initiative of a Project to Conduct a Review of the Land and Water Use Permitting Regulatory Framework, be received and adopted by the Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Report 8-20(1): Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on Committee's Initiation of a Project to Conduct a Review of the Land and Water Permitting Regulatory Framework, Received and Adopted by the Assembly, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. To the motion.

Report 8-20(1): Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on Committee's Initiation of a Project to Conduct a Review of the Land and Water Permitting Regulatory Framework, Received and Adopted by the Assembly, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Report 8-20(1): Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on Committee's Initiation of a Project to Conduct a Review of the Land and Water Permitting Regulatory Framework, Received and Adopted by the Assembly, Carried
Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Motion passed.

---Carried

Reports of standing and special committees. Returns to oral questions. Acknowledgements. Member from the Sahtu.

Acknowledgements
Acknowledgements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Acknowledgement

Acknowledgements
Acknowledgements

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the community of Tulita is proud to celebrate seven graduates from the Chief Albert Wright School for 2024. They are:

  • Damian McPherson,
  • Gosahte Bird,
  • Jaiden Wrigley,
  • Tristan MacCauley-Ayah
  • Jaden Lennie,
  • Lacey Wrigley, and
  • Rachel Horassi on their achievement.

Tulita celebrates their success, and we wish them very well in the coming years and their next steps on their education and career journey. Mahsi.

Acknowledgements
Acknowledgements

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from the Sahtu. Acknowledgements. Oral questions. Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Maybe just a quick comment before I get into my question. I think Members are restraining some of their questions to help the process move along, so. Maybe not all of course. That said, Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment with respect to autism supports and programming.

Mr. Speaker, parents have to cover PD days, daycare, afterschool program times, and summer programs, and it's having impacts on families and the relationships of friends and supporters. And I'm going to ask the Minister of education what can she do to further some policy initiatives to support these types of parents who are dealing with children with autism that needs strengths and sometimes even one-on-one supports? Thank you.

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, one of the things that we have heard from education bodies across the Northwest Territories, and specifically people who are in the role of classroom support positions, is that they wanted to have a fuller toolbox to be able to help students. And so one of the programs that ECE worked with education bodies to put into place over the course of the last few years was training for classroom assistants through a partnership that was formed with Douglas College, which I look forward to speaking about more in the House this week, and we are just graduating our first cohort of classroom assistants through that program. And this is a very unique program in that the classroom assistants were able to do the training from their home community while still supporting students in the classroom. Thank you.

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That's certainly welcome news; I wouldn't necessarily say it isn't. So back to my specific question is, is what policy changes can be done to help parents who have to take time off of work when there's PD days, there's no afterschool programs that support them, no daycares, and even including the full summer break when their young people need full-time care, part-time care, one-on-one care, etcetera, what can the department do to support policy initiatives that support these parents with autistic children? Thank you.

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is a funding pot that is referenced as SCIP that is available to licensed centre-based early learning and child care facilities. It promotes staff training to help with the development of inclusive programming, provides guidance, resources, and support to create appropriate spaces, and supports staff positions that can provide one-to-one support for children.

Mr. Speaker, I absolutely hear the Member, though, that what I am hearing from not only the Member but from residents of the territory is that they are looking for more supports, and what I would want to ensure is that, first of all, that we are addressing this in a way that is most effective for what parents are looking for, in a way that doesn't just throw money at it but also throws resources that are appropriate to what families are looking for. So I would love to hear some suggestions of exactly what it is the Member would like to see. Thank you.

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister mentions, first of all, the SCIP program. Yes, but it's very limited funding and, hence, when it only creates one or two openings there's still dozens on dozens of parents struggling to find support. And if you don't have a fantastic employer who's supportive of your challenges, you have to take days off. And if you have an employment position, such as a very unique one or professional, you can't take time off sometimes; that's just the nature of your work. So, Mr. Speaker, my question is is would the Minister be willing to meet with the group of parents and advocates for the autism community, which doesn't just represent Yellowknife but the territory at large; would she be willing to sit down with them and see if she could help them develop policy initiatives to support these people struggling with these day-to-day challenges?

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am absolutely more than happy to sit down with anybody. That is one of our key jobs as Ministers, is we spend a lot of time in meetings making sure that we understand what it is that residents of the Northwest Territories are looking for. Thank you.

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. Final supplementary. Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I'm okay, Mr. Speaker.

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Oral questions. Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Again?

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Member from Great Slave. I was looking --

Question 279-20(1): Autism Supports
Oral Questions

Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

-- that's not even a lake mix up on this one.

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

I don't have a lake. I mean, even though I'm named after a lake. Okay, thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, thank you. Would the health Minister commit to updating public facing communications around whether a person needs to call the registrar before or after applying a name change in order to avoid being dead named in the NWT because -- thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Great Slave. Got that right this time. Minister of Health and Social Services.

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, Mr. Speaker, we are committed to doing that.

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you for that yes from the Minister. I also want to thank the Minister for her commitment that the form will be changed and reviewed, hopefully changed but definitely reviewed. But can I get confirmation from the Minister that a gender-based analysis will be done during the review of the form to consider intersectional factors that may increase barriers for transgender or other gender identities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm very much in favour on completing the gender-based analysis. At this time, the majority of the health forms have been completed, including an identification of steps needed to make the health forms more gender inclusive. And we are near the completion of this, and the new health information system, the department will finalize its review of the needed revisions to the health forms and the legislation that needs (audio).

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm going to take that as a strong maybe.

Mr. Speaker, the application form for an NWT health care card also only presents a gender binary. Can the Minister commit to, in conjunction with her Cabinet colleagues, disclosing which GNWT forms are bound by legislation or regulation to include sex or gender in a binary fashion so that they can also be changed? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I cannot commit every department, but what I can commit is providing the Member with a list of the health legislation where the forms that are included in the legislation that aren't inclusive and that we will, you know, as we're looking at a lot of the legislation and making sure that we're reviewing those. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Final supplementary. Member from Great Slave.

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, Cabinet can expect a bunch of BFs.

Mr. Speaker, having to correct your gender to multiple locums on an ongoing basis can be demoralizing. Can the Minister speak to further changes that can be made to electronic medical record systems and patient charting so to be as more inclusive of gender diverse folks? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I agree with the Member, you know, the demoralizing for the folks that have to go through this. And yes, we do see a lot of locums and, unfortunately, at this time that is not possible in our electronic medical records to, other than the male/female genders. But the requirements that are going to be -- the things that we are working toward in the new EMR will include that -- like, for the system to be able to do that. But, and, you know, thank you that we've had these discussions between the Minister and the Member is that knowing that I've worked in the systems and, you know, there are other things within our EMR that can help to identify. So in the meantime, we can work with the authorities to find a way for -- our current electronic medical records have like an alert or some sort that can -- they may have to identify, but I can't guarantee that this will be across board as it is a temporary fix until we get a new EMR. Thank you.

Question 280-20(1): Applying for a Name Change
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Oral questions. Member from Yellowknife North.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So I'll direct my questions to the Minister of Executive and Indigenous Affairs, the Premier, but I know that homelessness is an issue that spans across departments so I'll leave him to redirect if necessary, and this kind of illustrates part of the conundrum we're in with the issues spanning across different mandates and departments here.

So the Salvation Army believes that we need a bigger and purpose-built shelter facility operating 24/7 in Yellowknife in order to meet the growing needs to be more cost efficient and offer wraparound services. So will the proposed Yellowknife wellness and recovery centre be designed to meet those kinds of needs? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife North. Mr. Premier.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There's no conundrum here. We all work together. And the Minister of Health and Social Services can answer all of the Member's questions, so I would like to redirect it to her. Thank you.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Minister of Health and Social Services.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the wellness and recovery centre is intended to replace the temporary day shelter and the sobering centre, and the capacity is approximately about 85 people during the day with an overnight capacity of 31 designated sleeping spaces, which currently we only have 22, so that increases that. But the facility is also built to be flexible and the ability to provide approximately 35 additional sleeping spaces if necessary. Thank you.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Okay, thank you for that. Can the Minister explain whether the sleeping spaces are specifically designated for those in the sobering centre or they're for anyone who's needing an emergency shelter whether, you know, they're intoxicated or not? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at this time the plan for the wellness and recovery centre is to provide services to those who are intoxicated because as the -- some of the other shelters aren't able to accommodate them, so that is what the wellness and recovery centre will accommodate. Thank you.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister explain what she might be able to do now to help non-profits who are operating emergency shelters be able to cope and address the growing crisis that we're facing here in Yellowknife? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we are currently working to streamline the funding sources to reduce reporting burdens and increase training opportunities to strengthen the overall capacity. And through the implementation of the integrated service delivery, we aim to increase efficiencies and wraparound supports for our most vulnerable residents to ensure that they are getting the services, supports they need in a timely manner and ensuring that NGOs are part of this process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Final supplementary. Member from Yellowknife North.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So can the Minister tell us when will we be able to see more transitional housing units planned for Yellowknife to help those who are currently on the street struggling with addictions and trauma? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, currently, we have one transitional housing program for addiction recovery planned for Yellowknife. It will have the capacity of five individuals at a time. This is a new program. And so we will be monitoring it closely to better understand the need before we consider any possibly expansions. You know, we have one going in in Yellowknife, we have one going in in Inuvik, we have two in the queue that have put forward their proposals. So, you know, there are many other communities that are also requesting these types of facilities. So what we want to make sure over this next year is that once we get the two operating, that we do a fulsome review that if there's things that we need to change in the way that we're working together with the NGOs to support them or, you know, we need to make sure that before we expand it out even farther. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 281-20(1): Meeting Shelter Needs in Yellowknife
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Oral questions. Member from Monfwi.

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I hope the Premier had a chance to read the statement from yesterday because I'm continuing with my statement from yesterday on Chief Jimmy Bruneau residents. So this is a question for the Premier.

Can the Premier explain if there have been any discussions with the federal government regarding residential school settlements and the residential school historical record in the NWT? Thank you.

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Monfwi. Mr. Premier.

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Unfortunately, I've not had a chance to review the Member's statement. I just flew back into town this morning, so I won't have good answers to the Member's questions. I apologize. Thank you.

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

I will continue because there are some he can answer, and I will do a written question as well.

So can the Premier describe why the residents or boarding homes associated with the Chief Jimmy Bruneau School are not recognized as part of the residential school system?

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would have to go back because this was an issue that I dealt with as the Minister of ECE. So I would have to go back and look at that. But I imagine it might have something to do with the fact that it was the -- I believe the Dogrib Divisional Education Authority that was actually overseeing those residents. They weren't GNWT run in the same way that they were elsewhere, or church run. Thank you.

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. Has the GNWT discussed residential school settlement for the NWT residential school survivors with Indigenous leadership? Thank you.

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm not aware of any of those discussions happening. Thank you.

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Premier. Final supplementary. Member from Monfwi.

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. I want to ask the Premier what advice can the Premier provide former residential school survivors of Chief Jimmy Bruneau School; are there any options available to these people to receive recognition and compensation for their experience? Thank you.

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. From my understanding, the day school, the residential school settlements, other similar settlements, were all initiated through the courts, through lawsuits, class action lawsuits, and that is the path, I believe, that has been proved most successful over the years. Thank you.

Question 282-20(1): Chief Jimmy Bruneau School and Residential School System
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Oral questions. Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, the status quo for Indigenous education is not working. The Government of the Northwest Territories has to implement UNDRIP, and that means fixing up the territory's education system, so it works for Indigenous children and carried out in collaboration with Indigenous governments. My question to the Minister of ECE.

Will the Minister commit to allowing Indigenous students to apply through student financial assistance for both supplementary grants and the remissible loan? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, ECE completed a review of the SFA program just in the last Assembly and with the goals to ensure that it was meeting the needs of NWT students to pursue their post-secondary education goals. The changes were in alignment as much of the work that we do, and the new work that we do with the Truth and Reconciliation of Canada Calls to Action, as well as the Report on the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls, as well as United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, with the aim of better supporting Indigenous students with financial assistance to access post-secondary. And so that led to specific changes being made for northern Indigenous students in the program, which increased the supplementary grant to help with their monthly living expenses and to remove the limit of semesters that can be accessed by students as well, Mr. Speaker.

The SFA program offers monthly living allowance to students through either the supplementary grant or the remissible loan. And just so that everybody is aware, the grants are not repayable to the Government of the Northwest Territories. Remissible loans may be forgiven if a student returns to the NWT after they've completed their schooling but otherwise will be considered repayable. And students who receive the remissible loans must remain within that $60,000 loan limit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister commit to establishing educational bodies that align with regional boundaries of existing treaties and those treaties still under negotiation and work with Indigenous governments to determine the governance of those bodies? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, one of my tasks, and very exciting and important tasks over the life of this term, is to begin work on the modernization of the Education Act, and that work will be done in collaboration with Indigenous governments and so I could very well see this being part of the conversation.

One of the cautions I would put out there is that the treaties currently under negotiation, that do not yet have boundaries established -- there's some of them -- so we wouldn't know what those would be, and then under, for example Treaty 8 and Treaty 11, the geographies are quite large, so you might end up with very large education bodies that may be deemed kind of unfeasible. And so I look forward to having these conversations when we do review the Education Act. Thank you.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister commit to working with Indigenous governments, including the Dene Nation, to help them reclaim education to preserve their traditional culture and knowledge so that they pass on from one generation to the next generation for education to be available in their traditional language? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in conversations in communities and with Indigenous governments that happened in the previous Assembly, immersion education was one of the top things that our committee at that time consistently heard about, and so I absolutely expect that this will be a key component of the conversation when we do review the Education Act. But that being said, Mr. Speaker, there is an Indigenous languages and education policy in place today in support of education bodies and welcoming all students within learning environments that centre respect and promote Indigenous world views, culture, and languages in our classrooms.

In addition to that, there's the Indigenous languages and education handbook, which is now being implemented in all schools across the NWT. And this was developed with the guidance of Dene, Metis, Inuvialuit, and NWT Cree, to help inform and guide efforts to Indigenize education. And then there is also the Our Languages curriculum which was released and implemented in our classrooms and is really truly a groundbreaking curriculum in the Northwest Territories and something that the NWT should be very proud of. But I very much look forward to continuing conversations about immersion education across the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. Final supplementary. Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister commit to revising the NWT Education Funding Framework away from an inequality-based oriented to a equity-based approach so that small communities can access more educational and wellness programming? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the current school funding framework does distribute funding based on a base level of funding; enrolment-based funding as well; a northern context index, which depends on the location of the school; consumer price increases, as well as targeted funding, for example for inclusive schooling. But I fully expect that the funding formula will also be a huge topic of conversation as we review the Education Act. Thank you.

Question 283-20(1): Solutions for Education for Indigenous Students
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. Oral questions. Member from Deh Cho.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are to the Minister of health. Can the Minister commit to improving mental health training and crisis response to mental health coordinators and health centre staff in small communities? Thank you.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from the Deh Cho. Minister of Health and Social Services.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, Mr. Speaker, I can commit to the Member to following up with the department to see what training the mental health workers in the Deh Cho riding and communities are receiving and reach out to see if there's future things that they need training with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, and thank you to the Minister for that. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister commit to ensuring that any mental health training provided to health centre staff is also offered to NGOs in the communities that work directly with the public? Thank you.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what I can do is I can check with the department to see what type of outreach training that we do provide to NGOs, or if there's funding dollars available for NGOs to access. Within the communities, like I was saying before, mental health and addictions, there is pots of money for each community to access for the suicide prevention fund. They could be used to -- you know, for training within the community if that's what the community wishes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Minister for that. Mr. Speaker, we know that many people struggle with addictions, for addictions treatment. Can the Minister describe how often the GNWT makes referrals for treatment based solely on mental health? Thank you.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't have that level of detail. Thank you.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Final supplementary. Member from the Deh Cho.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister provide that information to me, and can the Minister commit to multi-year funding agreements for organizations that offer on the land programming? Thank you.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I know that we have the stats on the territorial wide. When we start going down into smaller communities, it's harder and harder to be able to give numbers because they could -- they're so small that they may identify people. So what I can do is I can provide the information that we do have on what people are going out and if there is addictions or mental wellness is a territory wide. Thank you.

And to the multi-year funding question, you know, in my Minister's statement today, the community wellness and addiction recovery fund, that fund there can be applied through multi-year funding. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 284-20(1): Mental Health Training
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Oral questions. Member from the Sahtu.

Question 285-20(1): Strategic Educational Planning for Sahtu
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Further to my statement on education and the graduation season, my question is to the Minister of education on sponsoring and supporting the spirits of reconciliation and the improvements to the Education Act. Will the Minister assist my office in organizing a strategic planning session with Sahtu Divisional Board of Education? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 285-20(1): Strategic Educational Planning for Sahtu
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from the Sahtu. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Question 285-20(1): Strategic Educational Planning for Sahtu
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that in 2019, so almost some years ago now, that the Sahtu leadership came together to discuss issues of education and a vision for the future of education in the region and that this led to a five-year strategic plan that will be expiring in June of 2025. So I appreciate the Member for bringing this forward because it sounds like the timing is right. And so if leadership from across the Sahtu decides to come together in an education conference next summer, I would be more than happy to attend and to listen in to this and have the opportunity to hear the concerns from the region. And I think it's also worth noting as well that in October of this year, the Sahtu education body will be coming together for a conference of their own and an in-service, and so it sounds like there's some potential for some good synergies happening around the same time here. Thank you.

Question 285-20(1): Strategic Educational Planning for Sahtu
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thanks to the Minister for recapping the efforts that we had accomplished in July of 2019. It was a very well attended strategy session on how to upgrade and develop a plan moving forward to support education, and I'm glad to hear that the Minister supports that as a starting point to update our education journey for the young folks of the Sahtu.

And will the Minister provide staff supports there to help organize and put together the appropriate meeting packages in preparation for that session? Thank you.

Question 285-20(1): Strategic Educational Planning for Sahtu
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like the opportunity to find out from the Member exactly what it is that he is looking for as far as support and be able to find out how we can help one another make sure that this happens, but I'd like to better understand what it is that he's looking for. Thank you.

Question 285-20(1): Strategic Educational Planning for Sahtu
Oral Questions

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thanks to the Minister. Just to kind of share the moving forward, we can take the five-year 2019 strategy plan, update that to a 2024 package and see how we can extend and improve that. Since then, there was a lot of challenges, so that'll be a good starting point to upgrade the five-year Sahtu education plan here, call it the 2019 five-year plan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 285-20(1): Strategic Educational Planning for Sahtu
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I didn't hear a question, but I very much look forward to discussing with the Member and absolutely very much look forward to hopefully travelling to the Sahtu. Thank you.

Question 285-20(1): Strategic Educational Planning for Sahtu
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Oral questions. Member from Range Lake.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as we continue on into our fire season, I'd like to ask the Minister of MACA some questions about our emergency management legislation, specifically the regulations. In other jurisdictions, command control and coordination systems are present in regulations. They require local authorities to establish EMOs that all use the same system so there's a consistent approach across the board, and typically, it's the instant command system. Can the Minister tell me what regulations are in place under the Act to ensure consistent approaches to emergency planning and operations in all of our communities? Thank you.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Range Lake. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

Vince McKay

Vince McKay Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Currently, with the Act and the regulations, we don't have detail to that level; however, I am looking forward after the afteraction review is complete to reviewing all these documents to see what changes need to -- or may need to be changed. Currently, MACA does offer the incident command system training, the ICS100, to all community levels, but we do not mandate it at that time. So thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what work is already underway to review the regulations, or absence of regulations I suppose, as we currently have them? Thank you.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

Vince McKay

Vince McKay Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What I'm aware of is nothing has been fully done or looked at yet until the afteraction review is complete that we're currently doing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, given that we don't know exactly what's going to come out of the afteraction review but, presumably, there's going to be something around here. Will the Minister commit to implementing regulations that ensure that ICS is followed in all communities and that communities have to establish EMOs that use this system so we can ensure we're using the right system that works for us? Thank you.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

Vince McKay

Vince McKay Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The ICS program is a nationally and internationally recognized program. It's a common one that's used for these types of incidents. I'm interested in looking at this and seeing what we can do to develop it; however, I don't know what our grounds are on fully dictating to the communities what their EMO structures may look like. But at the end of the day, the department does work with the communities to establish these guidelines and assist them in developing them, which also includes recommending the type of training and offering some free training to the communities so that they essentially will fall in line. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. Final supplementary. Member from Range Lake.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think we're on the same page, but I do hope that the Minister will look to mandating best practices for EMOs in the Northwest Territories. Can he ensure the House that he will do that and provide support for those best practices through training and planning support? Thank you.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

Vince McKay

Vince McKay Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think we pretty much already do a lot of that stuff. We do offer the communities support with the development of the emergency plans and also provide the training. So yes, I will consider what the Member's requesting. Thank you.

Question 286-20(1): Incident Command System for Emergencies
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. Oral questions. Written questions. Returns to written questions. Replies to the Commissioner's address. Petitions. Tabling of documents. Member from Yellowknife North.

Tabled Document 119-20(1): Letter dated December 6, 2023 from Alternatives North to the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs and the Minister of Environment and Climate Change regarding Public Participation in a Regional Study under part 5.2 of the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act Tabled Document 120-20(1): Letter from the Assistant Deputy Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada to Alternatives North regarding Public Participation in a Regional Study under part 5.2 of the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act Tabled Document 121-20(1): Letter dated January 30, 2024 from the Minister of Environment and Climate Change to Alternatives North regarding Public Participation in a Regional Study under part 5.2 of the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act
Tabling Of Documents

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following three documents regarding public participation in a regional study under part 5.2 of Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act.

The first is a letter dated December 6, 2023, from Alternatives North to the Minister of Crown and Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs; second is a Letter from the Assistant Deputy Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada to Alternatives North; and, the third is a Letter dated January 30th, 2024, from the Minister of Environment and Climate Change to Alternatives North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 119-20(1): Letter dated December 6, 2023 from Alternatives North to the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs and the Minister of Environment and Climate Change regarding Public Participation in a Regional Study under part 5.2 of the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act Tabled Document 120-20(1): Letter from the Assistant Deputy Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada to Alternatives North regarding Public Participation in a Regional Study under part 5.2 of the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act Tabled Document 121-20(1): Letter dated January 30, 2024 from the Minister of Environment and Climate Change to Alternatives North regarding Public Participation in a Regional Study under part 5.2 of the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act
Tabling Of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife North. Tabling of documents. Notices of motion. Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Motion 36-20(1): Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Tabled Document 118-20(1)
Notices Of Motion

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Thursday, June 13th, 2024, I'll move the following motion:

Now therefore I move, seconded by the Member for Range Lake, that the Government of the Northwest Territories provide a response to Tabled Document 118-20(1) and table it in the House within 120 days. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Motion 36-20(1): Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Tabled Document 118-20(1)
Notices Of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Notices of motion. Member for the Sahtu.

Motion 37-20(1): Mackenzie Valley Highway Business Case Renewal
Notices Of Motion

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Thursday, June 13th, I will move the following motion:

Now therefore I move, seconded by the Member of the Mackenzie Delta, that the Government of the Northwest Territories update the business case to complete the Mackenzie Valley Highway immediately;

And further, that the Government of the Northwest Territories use the updated business case to formalize Indigenous partners in the project and to lobby the federal government in partnership to secure the funding requirement in the upcoming federal budget to develop this critical infrastructure for the territories and Canada;

And furthermore, that the Government of the Northwest Territories provide a response to this motion within 120 days.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Motion 37-20(1): Mackenzie Valley Highway Business Case Renewal
Notices Of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from the Sahtu. Notices of motion. Member from the Deh Cho.

Motion 38-20(1): Consideration for the Hamlet of Enterprise to Receive Top-Up Funding
Notices Of Motion

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Thursday, June 13th, 2024, I will move the following motion:

Now therefore I move, seconded by the Member for Monfwi, that the Government of the Northwest Territories provide the 10 percent funding needed for the installation of temporary housing in Enterprise;

And further, that the Government of the Northwest Territories align the Territorial Disaster Financial Assistance Program to leverage the 90 percent contribution provided under Canada's Disaster Financial Assistance Arrangement;

And furthermore, that the Government of the Northwest Territories immediately communicate with the hamlet of Enterprise its intention to fully participate in the installation of temporary housing in Enterprise;

And furthermore, that the Government of the Northwest Territories provide a response to this motion within 120 days.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Motion 38-20(1): Consideration for the Hamlet of Enterprise to Receive Top-Up Funding
Notices Of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from the Deh Cho. Notices of motion. Member from Yellowknife North.

Motion 39-20(1): Extended Adjournment of the House to October 17, 2024
Notices Of Motion

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Thursday, June 13th, 2024, I will move the following motion:

I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Hay River North, that notwithstanding Rule 2.1, when this House adjourns on Thursday, June 13th, 2024, it shall be adjourned until Thursday, October 17th, 2024;

And further, that any time prior to October 17th, 2024, if the Speaker is satisfied after consultation with the Executive Council and Members of the Legislative Assembly that the public interest requires that the House should meet at an earlier time during the adjournment, the Speaker may give notice and thereupon the House shall meet at the time stated in such notice and shall transact its business as it has been duly adjourned to that time.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Motion 39-20(1): Extended Adjournment of the House to October 17, 2024
Notices Of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife North. Notices of motion. Motions. Notices of motion for the first reading of bills. First reading of bills. Minister of Justice.

Bill 7: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act 2024
First Reading Of Bills

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Mr. Speaker, I wish to present to the House Bill 7, Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act 2024, to be read for the first time. Thank you.

Bill 7: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act 2024
First Reading Of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Minister of Justice. First reading of bills. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Bill 8: An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act
First Reading Of Bills

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to present to the House Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act, to be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 8: An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act
First Reading Of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. First reading of bills. Second reading of bills. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters, Tabled Document 93-20(1), Tabled Document 111-20(1).

This House stands -- no, that's not it, wrong one. I was kicking you guys out already.

As Speaker, I authorize the House to sit beyond the House daily hours of adjournment until -- no time, until consideration of the business of the House is completed, with the Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh in the chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Call the committee to order. What is the wish of the committee? I'm going to go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the Committee of the Whole wishes to consider Tabled Document 93-20(1), 2024-2025 Main Estimates, the Departments of Industry, Tourism and Investment and Housing Northwest Territories, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Does committee agree?

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. We'll take a short recess, and we'll start in about 15 minutes.

---SHORT RECESS

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, we're going to start up. Members, we have agreed to review Tabled Document 93-20(1), Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment. We'll resume with key activity tourism and parks on page 247. Does the Minister of ITI wish to bring witnesses into the House? Minister.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Yes, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Does the committee agree?

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber.

Thank you. Would the Minister please introduce her witnesses.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, to my left I have deputy minister Pamela Strand. And to my right, I have Nina Salvador who is the director of corporate management and finance.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Members, there are additional questions on this key activity yesterday. On page 243 to 247, we stopped at 746, so we're going to continue on. Is there any questions from the Members on pages 243 with information items on 247? Seeing no further questions, so I'm going to continue on to please turn to page 244.

Industry, Tourism and Investment, tourism and parks, operations expenditure summary, 2024-2025 Main Estimates, $17,226,000. Does the committee agree?

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Turn to additional information items from pages 248 to 252, are there any questions? Thank you, Members.

Please return now to the department summary found on page 227 and revenue summary information items on page 228. Are there any questions? Seeing no further questions, committee, I will now call the department summary.

Industry, Tourism and Investment, operations expenditure, total department, 2024-2025 Main Estimates, $63,392,000. Does the committee agree?

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I move that this committee defer further consideration of the main estimates for the Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Consideration of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, operations expenditure, 2024-2025 Main Estimates, total department, is deferred.

---Carried

Thank you, Minister, and thank you for the witnesses for appearing before us. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witnesses from the chambers.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters, 2024-2025 Main Estimates, Housing Northwest Territories.

Committee, we have agreed to consider Tabled Document 93-20(1), 2024-2025 Main Estimates. We will now consider Housing Northwest Territories.

Committee, Housing Northwest Territories is included in the main estimates as information and the totals are not voteable. We will continue to review these estimates as we have for the previous considered departments; however, we will not vote on the totals. If Members have comments or questions, they can be raised at the appropriate time.

Minister, please proceed with your opening remarks.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you. I am pleased to be here today to present the 2024-2025 Main Estimates for Housing NWT.

Overall, the corporation's estimates propose an operating budget of over $120 million, representing a decrease of $12.76 million from the 2023-2024 Main Estimates.

This decline in annual funding is primarily related to the sunset of short-term funding from the federal government and funding for short-term initiatives from the GNWT to assist Housing NWT in developing partnerships with others delivering on housing projects in the Northwest Territories by cost sharing on approved housing projects under Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation's Co-Investment and Rapid Housing Programs. A smaller portion of this decline relates to adjustments that were made to support our government's fiscal sustainability initiative.

Housing NWT's 2024-2025 Main Estimates also includes the following incremental funding allocations from the GNWT:

  • A $1 million initiatives contribution from the Government of the Northwest Territories to assist Housing NWT in cost sharing the continued delivery of the Canada Housing Benefit, supporting access to affordable private rental options; and,
  • A $567,000 allocation received under a new gender-based violence funding agreement with the Department of Executive and Indigenous Affairs to enhance the Northern Pathways to Housing Program.

In addition to this $120 million operating budget for 2024-2025, it is also important to note that, with financial support from both the federal government and Government of the Northwest Territories, Housing NWT is currently constructing 150 housing units and advancing over 390 renovation projects throughout the territory, valued at over $107 million.

This delivery, comprised of current projects and carryover projects from the prior years of $93 million, includes much needed new public housing units, the replacement of aged public housing stock, transitional housing projects, and numerous modernization and improvement repair projects across the territory and various biomass alternative energy investments.

In addition to supporting responsible spending, these estimates align with the priorities of the 20th Legislative Assembly by:

  • Directly investing in areas that support the suitability, accessibility, and affordability of housing in our territory;
  • Improving housing outcomes by contributing to a strong economic foundation for the Northwest Territories;
  • Supporting healing from trauma and positive outcomes through a planned transitional housing partnership with the Department of Health and Social Services; and,
  • Investing in initiatives to mitigate and adapt to the increasing risks of climate change, to name a few.

Recognizing that no single government or organization can improve housing outcomes and address the core need alone, I look forward to continued conversations with Canada, Indigenous governments, community governments, non-governmental organizations, industry, and other housing delivery agents towards developing housing solutions appropriate for the Northwest Territories. Important to these conversations will be completing the housing needs assessment to get a clearer picture of the total amount and types of housing required along the housing continuum. That information will anchor future funding conversations with our partners in the federal government, as well as working with Indigenous governments about long-term sustainable financial solutions for housing.

In closing, the 2024-2025 Main Estimates allow Housing Northwest Territories to continue to implement its capital plan and invest available resources in our current stock. We will then in turn focus significant efforts towards this strategic approach to addressing core housing needs in the Northwest Territories with all of our partners.

This concludes my opening remarks. Quyananni.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Does the Minister responsible for Housing Northwest Territories wish to bring witnesses into the House?

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Yes, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Does the committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witnesses into the chambers.

Would the Minister introduce her witnesses.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm pleased to introduce Eleanor Young, who is the president and CEO of Housing Northwest Territories. And to my right is Mr. Jim Martin, who is the vice-president of finance with Housing NWT. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Does committee agree to forego general comments on Housing Northwest Territories?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Seeing no more general comments, does the committee agree to proceed to the detail contained in the tabled documents?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Committee, we will defer the total and review the estimates by activity summary beginning with community housing services starting on page 382, with information items on page 383 and 384. Are there any questions? Going to go to the Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, are we going to come back to page 379 at the end, is that the idea? Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay, so knowing that, I'll save that question for later.

But I just wanted to turn to the business plan. So there's a couple commitments in there. I think that they probably fall under the community housing services area. The first one is the completion of housing needs assessment. I've spoken to that a few times and, you know, I am supportive of housing doing that. I note that it's noted for March 31st, 2026. Is there a possibility that they could get that needs assessment done sooner than that date?

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In speaking to Housing NWT, I have encouraged that we get the housing needs assessment done sooner rather than later, and we're hoping to have something done for winter 2024. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Okay, thank you very much to the Minister for that. I really appreciate the additional emphasis on timeline for that. I think that document is going to be crucial for us kind of determining the need, quantifying the problem.

Continuing on with that along that thread, there's the needs assessment for new stock and then there's what we already have. So I was pleased to see in the business plan, page 255, develop an updated infrastructure deficit assessment for Housing NWT's owned residential assets to identify current and long-term capital investment needs. So the target is that we're going to have a current housing infrastructure deficit assessment. There is no timeline associated with that one as there is for the needs assessment. So I'm just wondering if the Minister can give us an update on perhaps a timeline that could be included on that item in the business plan.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am pleased to note that it is the same timeline as the housing needs assessment. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. And thank you very much to the Minister. I really appreciate you pushing the department on this. I'm very excited to have both of those highly informative documents -- well, I hope they're highly informative, because I -- and I just want to emphasize the importance of those in making decisions going forward. I've been speaking in the House a fair bit about our infrastructure deficit that we have in the Northwest Territories, both private and public, but we got to focus on what we're in control of here at GNWT. But until we kind of quantify this problem and come up with a long-term plan to address it, it is going to continue to hang over our heads. The Assembly has said that housing is our number 1 priority. I want us to put our money where our mouth is. So I would like to see us come up with a costed plan for addressing the deficit once we quantified it. So very much appreciate the Minister accelerating fthe timeline for those two documents because I think that they will be crucial to us making future decisions. I think that's all I need to say on this aspect of the business plan for now. I have some questions about what Housing NWT is doing over the next year, but that's going to be captured on page 379, so I'll leave my comments at that for now. Thank you very much.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Is there any further questions from the Members on this page item? Seeing none, no further questions. I'll remind the committee that the estimates for Housing Northwest Territories are included as an information item only. The committee will not be voting on the activity total.

Moving on to the homelessness program starting on page 385, with information items on page 387. Are there any questions? Seeing no further questions. We will now be voting -- oh sorry, I didn't see you. The Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. You're moving so quickly here, I think there's probably a few of us that have some questions on these but you're just getting ahead of us there. Though I do appreciate you running a tight ship.

On the Housing First programming, when I was serving on the Yellowknife Housing Authority previous to taking on this role, we were hearing a lot of concerns from folks in public housing who were sharing space with Housing First program, that the kind of mixed use of the building was causing a lot of problems for people, you know, people who are trying to raise young children in the same building where people are experiencing pretty severe addictions issues and the kind of fallout from that. And I was just wondering if the Minister is -- whether the department is live to this issue, has a plan to address it, or has any comments on kind of ensuring that the Housing First program is implemented in such a way that it can best be set up to succeed? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I understand, and I've heard of the many concerns around the Housing First program and the implementation of the program within the city of Yellowknife. Perhaps I can allow the president of Housing NWT to talk more about the Housing First program. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the president.

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Eleanor Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And, yes, to confirm, the Housing NWT is live to the concern and has had meetings with the deliverers of the Housing First program and is looking to see if we cannot find funding solutions to allow them to have their own space for the delivery of their programs and also to be able to expand their programs, and that's the desire of those delivering the program to be able to do so. And it would make more sense to be able to have adequate and appropriate space for them, so we will work with them with that goal in mind. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member for Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. One thing I do want to note on this page is just I am very happy to see that we didn't make any cuts that I can see to these homelessness programs. That's absolutely what I want to see, and I was quite pleased to see that there's been a fairly significant increase to the Northern Pathways to Housing program. Can the Minister just speak to what those funding increases are going to be utilized for.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, if I can have President Eleanor Young speak on the Northern Pathways for Housing program. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the president.

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Eleanor Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In her opening comments, the Minister spoke to some additional funding we've received through the Gender-Based Violence program, and so that is where this funding is being targeted to, to be able to expand this area of our programming with that funding. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And the Minister and her staff are making me quite the happy Member this afternoon. I'm very happy to see these increases to funding, very happy to hear answers about fast tracking our needs assessments. I think this is great to see. So appreciate the work they're doing on this. Of course, I'll always support more funding towards these programs. I would happily support supps coming in from the Minister when they receive more funding for programs like this because they are really crucial to getting people into housing in our communities. So thank you very much. Those are my comments on this page for now.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have one question. It might require follow-up questions for the Minister.

I'm just noting here on the operations expenditure summary for emergency shelters, so the main estimates for 2024-2025 and 2023-2024 are the same; however, the actuals for the 2023-2024 and the 2022-2023-year are much higher. It is my assumption that the estimates and the actuals are different because of the cost to run the overnight shelters in Yellowknife; is that correct, Mr. Chair? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The cost differential in the revised estimates with the main estimates for 2024-2025 are related to the Inuvik shelter, and the Inuvik homeless shelter and warming shelter are internally resourced by Housing NWT. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Okay, thank you. I guess I'm mixing up health and social services and housing, I apologize. So I guess a follow-up question to that would be if we know the cost difference is basically an extra $2 million every year over year, why are we budgeting less? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The information I've received is that we have expanded our shelter network throughout the Northwest Territories, and we're working to gain more funding for the homeless shelters. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Is there any timeline associated with that funding that they're seeking? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We don't have a timeline yet. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. More of a comment than a question, if that's the case maybe budget higher. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Next on the list I have got is the Member from Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

In June 2023, part of the 19th Legislative Assembly, we passed a motion here for long-term tenants -- for housing or houses to be transferred to long-term tenants who lived in it for over 20, 30 years. So I just want to know since that time -- to be homeowners, that's what we asked for. Since that time, I just wanted to ask the Minister to date, how many houses were transferred to long-term tenants in the NWT?

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will turn to President Eleanor Young for that response.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the president.

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Eleanor Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. 39 have been completed, and I believe we have another 40 to 50 in process at the time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. Thank you, that's good to know. Another one, too, is that here, we're on page 384 maintenance. Okay, the budget went down from 2022-2023 to $13 million this fiscal year. So can the Minister tell us does this -- well, it's not lots, you know, but I just wanted to know if this supports all 33 communities?

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The maintenance budget for community housing services supports all local housing authorities throughout the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. So with that amount, so how much is allocated to Tlicho region of that amount?

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm just going to turn over to vice-president Jim Martin here, and he'll get the exact numbers for the MLA. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the vice-president.

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Jim Martin

Thank you, Mr. Chair. A total of $2.3 million has been allocated to the Tlicho region. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Okay, well, that's good to know. $2.3 million to support four Tlicho communities. And especially in Behchoko, we have lots of houses that needs repair. I don't think this $2.3 million -- but, I mean, you know, divided by four communities, it's not enough. I don't think it's enough. So I just wanted to ask the Minister if there's any plans in the future to increase the funding for housing repair program for public units? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And that's the quandary we are in as Housing NWT, is our federal funding is declining and it's been declining since 1997 through the social housing agreement. Presently, we're at about almost $10 million from the 1997 social housing agreement. But we did receive funds through CMHC bilateral agreement in 2020 which supplemented our operating expenses for repairs and maintenance for public housing. But that agreement, again, ends in 2028. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Next on my list to speak I have is the Member from the Mackenzie Delta.

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George Nerysoo

George Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It's unfortunate that we have homeless people in the NWT, let alone our small communities. And the homeless population is growing. We tend to see that some of our residents from the smaller communities are making their way to the bigger centres, the larger centres, because they have these homeless shelters readily available. So as they make their way to the bigger centres, the regional centres don't have the capacity to accommodate all the people that are looking for shelter. Whether it be wintertime or summertime, they make their way -- I know they make their way to Inuvik because we have some homeless people within our -- in our own communities. Is there a plan in the future to provide homeless shelters within the smaller communities in the future? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No, there is no plan to expand homeless shelters into the smaller communities. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member for Mackenzie Delta.

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George Nerysoo

George Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, that's pretty unfortunate because like I stated there, the homeless shelter in Inuvik only has capacity for so many people, and you see residents from other communities trying to go there and they're told that they have no room, and the residents from the local town -- like, from the town of Inuvik are given first priority because they're the ones that live in the community.

Aklavik has a program that's administered by the Aklavik Indian band. I think they have up to four units that assist these homeless people with accommodations. They're given some kind of program where they can live in a home and live there until they can find suitable long-term arrangements. I've spoken to some of the residents that occupy these units, and I've also spoken to some of the administrators who administer this program, and it seems to be working. And it'll be good if the department can look at providing these services in the other communities.

I'm not going to ask you a question because I think you already answered my question about advocating or helping homeless people within the smaller communities. It's just unfortunate that -- looking at your emergency shelters, and it's gone down significantly from 2023-2024 to 2024-2025. So I don't see any room for advancing this, these programs to other smaller communities. It's only going to get worse because the people that are homeless, they get in trouble with the housing so it's local housing authorities by getting into arrears. And if they move out of their place and in the future, they want to apply, they're going to be told that they have arrears and those arrears have to be cleared off before they're even considered, then they're considered homeless. So it's just -- would be good if the department can, in the future, look at this homelessness more carefully because it's -- I lived in this -- in this environment for five months at one time. And you turn to alcohol and other -- myself, I just used alcohol, but I didn't consider myself an alcoholic because I was just merely surviving from one day to the next and it's not -- you can see that in every community. I see that in my own home community, and it's -- you feel helpless because you can't help your brothers, your sisters, your cousins, your community members. And these people just need a little help, because alcohol is the only detterrent they may have in the event that, you know, just surviving. I didn't consider myself an alcoholic because I overcame it. I mean, I'm still battling, but I've been able to overcome it because I was surviving from one day to the next. And if the department can help these people by, you know, keeping them in their own hometown, where their residents can maybe give them assistance too, by surviving from one day to the next. So it's more of a comment is to see if in the future that you can -- the department can look at providing these kinds of services that's provided in Aklavik and administered by a local Indigenous government. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I know that you mentioned that it was just a comment, but I'm going to go to the Minister for an overall general comment to that. Thank you.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

I know the difficulties in the past with Housing NWT in implementing policies that were colonialistic and sometimes punitive to many of our tenants across the Northwest Territories. But what we've done with Housing NWT over the last number of years is work on a strategic renewal initiative which included looking at reassessing those with arrears and providing those that have been evicted to be placed back on the waiting list for housing.

I know housing in the communities is few and far between. The 19th Assembly was the first Assembly in many, many Assemblies to actually put some capital dollars towards housing in the Northwest Territories. Much of that funding has been carried forward into this Assembly, so we still got a bit of work to do. But with those policies that MLA Nerysoo is referring to is things that have been put in place in the past and that we're working on to change for the future, for a better future for all of us and for Housing NWT. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Is there any further questions from Members? I'm going to go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So I am going back one page here, I apologize. But under community housing services, when we look at that line item for maintenance -- and I think my colleague from Monfwi was drawing attention to this one too.

My question is is this budget -- this line item just for, like, minor maintenance or repairs, or would it be for more serious renovations that are needed to, you know, to allow public housing unit tos be able to, you know, be liveable and stay open? I notice that the description of it says that it's for funding for LHOs to undertake demand and preventative maintenance activities to support the provision of good quality housing, but does this include more substantive renovations or repairs? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you for that question. With the maintenance budget, the maintenance budget is for LHOs and much of that is health and safety, preventative maintenance measures that are done on each unit throughout the Northwest Territories, each public housing unit, but also paying for staff to maintain those units. So that's all encompassing in that number of $13,854,000. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go back to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So if there was a need for a bigger renovation to keep a unit, you know, liveable, to keep it -- someone housed there, what line item or where would that come out of the budget?

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. For modernization and improvement of units, that is an MMI project, and that's under community housing services under expenditure category minor modernization and improvements. It comes through our capital plan. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go back to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So we do see a significant decrease in the budget for minor modernization and improvements, both on page 383 and then -- oh, it's the exact same one in the wrap-up page, 379. So what's the reason for such a major decrease in the budget for the modernization and improvements? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Unfortunately, our CIRNAC agreement sunsetted, and it decreased our MMI budget. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So was this budget being fully used? Was it fully subscribed before the sunsetting? Like, is there a need for at least, you know, $6.6 or even $7.1 million worth of modernization and improvements? That was the number from 2022-2023. If we could find that money, could you use it? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you to the Member for the question. I mean, housing always could use more money, but we do have a carry forward plan. MMI is part of that carryforward plan, and we got some -- a lot of work over the next year to catch up with that work. So our capital and our MMI budget is carried forward, and there's a lot of projects on the go. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Can the Minister give any insights into why there is a lot of carryforward? It sounds like there's trouble implementing some of these projects and they needed, you know, repairs and improvements. Can the Minister give us some insights into what is holding us back from being able to use the money each year for the improvements that are needed. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. One of the things that Housing NWT is finding with much of our capital projects and our MMI projects is either cost. We put it out for tender, and it just -- the costs come back and they're way too high. Maybe because it's government, they think they can bid a higher rate. Sometimes we're having resupply issues. We're having capacity issues. There's many issues that we're having with Housing NWT with our capital and MMI projects that have deterred us from completing those over the last couple years. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I do hope we have much more in-depth conversations, you know, from here on in going forward as to how we can address some of these challenges and problems because I think this gets at the crux of we are all so desperate to try and improve our housing stock and increase stock, and if we're having these bottlenecks or problems, like, we really need some detailed plans and sort of getting everyone on board to figure out how we can work together to address them. So I look forward to those continued conversations.

One more question about apprentices. So are we able to use all of the money that we're setting out there for apprentices? So it looks like LHOs are hiring apprentices to -- so we can increase the supply of qualified tradespersons, which is exactly what we need. How is that program going; is it fully subscribed? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The information from staff is the program is fully subscribed. It does change from year to year depending if an apprentice would graduate from the program. But in partnership with ECE, this program is fully subscribed. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well, that's good news, and that's perhaps something we could identify going forward as if it's fully subscribed now and we, you know, increase our efforts, maybe we could even expand it and get more and more apprentices in there. That could be a positive step and a good news story. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll take that as a comment. Is there any further questions from Members? I'm going to go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

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June 11th

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I was going to save my comments when we went back to the overall, but I want to follow up on my colleague's questions from Yellowknife North.

And it's kind of alarming that we do have a $93 million surplus. And I know the Member from Yellowknife North asked if there was a capacity issue getting this work completed. And I know, you know, living in Inuvik, I know there is often -- it's difficult in getting contractors to do work. I know a lot of the work that has to be done is work that's beyond the scope that our typical housing maintainers would do. But the fact remains there's still 16 units in Inuvik that are still waiting for repairs to be done and, as the Minister knows, we have an extensive waitlist in Inuvik for those units had they been repaired so people can get in them. And I guess my comment is, I mean, the fact is we know it's getting more expensive to build in the North. It's got more expensive in the past five years. We know during COVID, it was very expensive, and we know that even post-COVID it's still -- it's come down but still certainly significance. So, I guess, my comment would be, I mean, is the department confident in the due diligence they're doing in budgeting and getting this -- you know, ensuring that, you know, when they're putting out tenders or RFPs to get these units either repaired or some of this major work done, that they're confident that they're keeping up with where costs are, particularly in the regions further North? Obviously trucking with the carbon tax, with the cost of fuel, we know things are getting more expensive, so I just want to make sure that -- you know, that the department is confident that they're doing whatever they can. Because $93 million is an alarming number. I'm sure they appreciate the $2 to $3 million worth of interest they get on having that cash in the bank, but it certainly doesn't help the residents that are waiting on a waitlist to get into these units. So just maybe a comment on that, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister to the comment.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member's comment, I understand that the work that Housing NWT has to do over the next year, especially in carrying out much of this capital and MMI projects, it's going to be a lot of hard work over the next year, especially with the timelines and the deliverables. But I'll ask President Eleanor Young to comment as well and just to give some more information if you don't mind, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Absolutely. I'll go to the president.

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Eleanor Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. First, I just want to clarify the $93 million, because there's more information in that than just the MMI conversation that we were starting with when we were talking about some of the challenges. That $93 million also includes projects that are in progress. Because many of our new construction projects do take two years to complete by the time we ship, stage, you know, and get the project installed. So it's quite normal for us to have a carryover related to projects that are in progress.

The other big part that impacts the surplus this year is some of the federal funding that we received for two Yellowknife projects, the 50-unit build and the 36-unit renovation, both of those projects, the money came in partway through the year and so those projects -- again, we received the money upfront, but the projects are actually scheduled for completion by March of 2025, I believe it is, so that money does sit to be able to finish those projects but we did receive the full allocation upfront from the federal government for those projects. So the $93 million surplus looks quite large but in reality, it is cash flowing projects that we have underway throughout our capital plan. It isn't all because of delays in contracting and things of that nature. And also just we do track cost of construction through a number of sources, and we test some of that with some of the local tendering just to make sure that our prices are falling in line with what the market is doing and look for opportunities to reduce those costs wherever possible as well. So our staff are quite good at trying to make sure that our budgeting is realistic to what work we have to do. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Does the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake have any further questions?

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Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for that. And, again, obviously as I know, the Minister knows, this does vary throughout the region certainly. As you get further North, the costs certainly go up and have continued to go up.

You mentioned that obviously a significant portion of the $93 million is major projects or projects in progress. Can the Minister tell me what portion of that $93 million is work that is currently in progress and over a two-year or three-year time span? Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Jim Martin here is going to provide some insight to that question. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the vice-president.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Jim Martin

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, currently within our capital delivery plan this year, we have a total of 150 units that are under construction at various stages of delivery.

In terms of the multi-year, we have 65 of those units within the 150 that relate to the 100 public housing expansion initiative that was a multi-year program that we set out during the 19th Legislative Assembly. And we're entering the final year here of delivery, so we expect all 65 of those units in the current plan to be completed this fiscal year. In fact, 14 of them are already completed, so we have another 51 left to finalize this year. So that relates to the multi-year delivery.

The public housing replacements within the plan, we have 25 units, and 4 of those were previously initiated in the previous year, but the 21 are currently new for delivery. And we also have -- as Ms. Young outlined, within that 150 we also have 50 units associated with the 50 plexes being constructed here in Yellowknife, and that is a multi-year project. It will be completed in the fall of 2025. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you for that. Can you provide a dollar value on that $93 million? I think that's what I asked, how much the $93 million that equates to in cash. Thank you.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll ask Jim to help me with the answer. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the vice-president.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Jim Martin

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So first off, the 65-units that was mentioned part of the 100-unit delivery, there's $12 million left of that delivery. So they're nearing the final stages. In terms of the 50-unit build, which will be a multi-year, that number there, it's currently out for tender, and I can't provide that number at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go back to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll try one more time. Can the Minister provide me with the amount that is not tied up in current projects?

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll ask Jim to help me with this answer again. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the vice-president.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Jim Martin

Sorry, Mr. Chair, could the Member please repeat the question. I just want to make sure I fully understand it.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, I'm going to go back to vice-president. I'm assuming you got the question from the Minister.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Jim Martin

Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair. Not committed, just looking here, about $60 million. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go back to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you for that answer. Just to clarify, $60 million of the $93 million is for projects that have yet to be started and hasn't been committed.

(audio) if we go back to the summary (audio) back to the summary, and I'll ask it then. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to move on to the Member from the Sahtu.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My statement is more of a comment here. Having seen a number of projects here out in the communities under construction, during construction, after construction, is it part of the housing department to have a follow-up review, a completion review after the project is done to see how it went, was it on schedule, was it done safely, was it done within the budget? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, Housing NWT does that work. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go back to the Member from the Sahtu.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Okay. No, thank you, and thanks to the Minister for that response. I think quality control is very critical to the completion of these schedules, and it may minimize the carryovers and the delays. I know this is a department that's facing a lot of challenges, like many other employers out in the communities, with the workforce difficulties. But there's always room for improvements, and I see this as one. And if the department's doing that, that's good. It shows that you're looking at the construction costs per square foot. That's good. And if it went on time and in different areas -- you're building a home in several different challenging regions, so I make that suggestion. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from the Deh Cho.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you. My question to the Minister is the 150 units, how many of those units -- are those new builds, public housing units, or market housing? And how many of them are going into the Deh Cho riding, if they haven't already done so? Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Martin will provide the information related to the Deh Cho riding. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the vice-president.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Jim Martin

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Of the units noted, we have a total of four. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go back to the Member from the Deh Cho.

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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Four units, are those single dwellings or duplexes or four-plexes; what are they? Thank you.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Those are single units, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member for the Deh Cho.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Are those the ones that are currently in Fort Providence, or are they somewhere else? Thank you.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Those units are located in Fort Providence, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from the Deh Cho.

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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

What I saw in Fort Providence was two four-bedroom -- four single units in one building. I saw two of them. So is that correct? Like you said, there's four -- four of those, or is there just two? Because I only saw two, I believe. Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well, the good news is there's six units in Fort Providence, and those are the units that you did see. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member for the Deh Cho.

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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Yeah, thank you. I had four, now I have six. I'm very happy, thank you. And how many do we have -- how many more do we have coming for the Deh Cho riding? Thank you.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just to confirm the numbers, we have two duplexes to the Hay River Reserve. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from the Deh Cho.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you for that. I have no more questions. I'm very happy. Thank you.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Seeing no more questions, I'm going to continue on. Seeing no further questions, we will now -- sorry, we will not be voting on this activity total.

Moving on to the homeownership assistance program, starting on page 388. Are there any questions? I'm going to the Member from Frame Lake.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, just a quick one. I note on the budget that between 2023, 2024 and 2025, Habitat for Humanity's contribution ended. I can probably answer that question for myself that it's that the CMHC National Co-Investment Fund concluded, but I guess the question that I do want to bring to the department is is there planned funding in the future for Habitat for Humanity; what's the department doing in terms of working with this organization for their next set of builds?

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. President Young will provide that information.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to President Young.

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June 11th

Eleanor Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The remaining Habitat units that are under their current agreement with CMHC, of which there's three more still to be constructed, housing has arranged to pay for our cost share component out of some cost share money we had in the last government. So we have got our money set aside for the remainder of the Habitat units that are committed to currently. And as the Member mentions, Habitat is currently working with Canada to look for an extension to that agreement past 2028 and we'll support them if they're able to do so at that time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go back to the Member from Frame Lake.

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June 11th

Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's it for me on this page.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Is there any further questions? I'm going to go to the Member from Mackenzie Delta.

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June 11th

George Nerysoo

George Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. On your category here of seniors aging in place, the other day I made a Member's statement in regards to having seniors' homes inspected annually. Your seniors aging in place, it has gone down a little bit. But can this be used to inspect seniors homeowners' homes to find if there's any minor repairs before it becomes too costly for them? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. President Young will provide information on the inspections of housing units. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the president.

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June 11th

Eleanor Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So with this budget, there would be an inspection done on the home as part of the application to determine what repairs would be done to the home. So the inspection would be part of the application process. For folks who just need an inspection without submitting an application, we could work with the LHO to see if that could be done but it wouldn't be out of this specific program. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go back to the Member from Mackenzie Delta.

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June 11th

George Nerysoo

George Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, I was looking at that and I was, you know, feeling kind of optimistic about the elders that want to stay within the community, and this would help them a great deal with inspections because I am getting calls from mainly the community of Tsiigehtchic. The resident, I contacted him, and he said it'll be good if they can have annual inspections on their home because at their age, they can't determine if there's any deficiencies within their own home except, you know, if their heating source goes out then they might get worried. But, you know, if an annual inspection can be conducted -- I had something here, more of a preventative measure. Like, if a senior wants an inspection on his home, how would he or she go about proceeding with an inspection? Would they go to their local housing authority and ask for an application, help with an application? Every elder requires assistance filling out applications because they're so time consuming and everything, you know, you got to make things more easier for our elders because they want to stay within their own communities where they feel comfortable. So just how would they go about getting this information so they can get their homes inspected, especially if it's this time of the year they can get some work done on it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would encourage the elders if they're interested in inspections of their homes, that they contact the local housing authority and the local housing authority could work with program staff at the district office. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Mackenzie Delta.

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June 11th

George Nerysoo

George Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My other concern is the home purchase program. I know the Indigenous governments within each region were allocated some money from the federal government to build houses within their respective regions, and I believe within my community of Fort McPherson, I believe we have eight houses constructed by the Gwich'in Tribal Council, and I think the purpose of building these houses is not to turn over to housing for public housing units but to give residents of communities the option or the opportunity to own their own homes, because right now we have a number of young people that are working, they have families, and they have no choice but to live with their parents because they're not eligible to live in public housing units because of how much money they make. So if these houses were -- which I believe are going to be given -- or not given, or letting these potential homeowners, if they can get a mortgage to own these homes, would the home purchase program be something that they could look at applying for to give them assistance? Because most of these people are single mothers, and it's going to be pretty difficult for them to start but if this program can help them, it'll be of great value. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. If President Young can talk a bit more about the home purchase program to provide information to MLA Nerysoo. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the president.

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June 11th

Eleanor Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I think I'll start by saying the homes that the Indigenous governments are building, those are separate from Housing NWT and so I can't say for sure how they plan to deliver their homeownership program. But the home purchase program that Housing NWT offers is a down payment assistance program. It's primarily targeted to regional centres but, you know, we can look at it if this is required in other communities. But I think first we would need to have a conversation just with the Indigenous government to understand how they're planning to deliver the program and whether our programs would match up or not. We do have the collaborative agreement with the Indigenous government in your riding so we can absolutely have a conversation, just to understand how we can work together to support the homeowners. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from the Mackenzie Delta.

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June 11th

George Nerysoo

George Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

That will be beneficial -- thank you, Mr. Chair. It would be beneficial to the potential homeowners. And there is -- yeah, I would like to hear back of what the purpose of those homes are for. But it would help a great deal in getting some potential homeowners within my community because they'd like to be independent and strive for something that they've always wanted. And owning a home is a big step, so having this forgivable loan, if it's available to subsidize the cost, it will help a great bit. It's just more of a comment. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Next on my list I have is the Member from the Deh Cho.

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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, my question to the Minister of housing is under the emergency repair program, can Members from my riding, my constituents from the Hay River Reserve, access this program? Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, the members can access this program. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from the Deh Cho.

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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

The question is -- thank you. Thank you to the Minister. Can members that are -- I don't know if the housing that they're living in currently -- some of the members from the Hay River Reserve, if their housing units -- if they're privately owned units, can they still access the program?

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, this is what the program would be eligible for, is for privately owned units, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from the Deh Cho.

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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And can residents or my constituents, are they to go to the local district office or the -- which office do they go to to access -- to get an application to take part in this emergency repair program? Because currently I am told by some residents that they are not able to access any emergency repair program. There's a few of my constituents in Hay River on the reserve that are having issues with the damages from the flood and having mold underneath their houses, and currently are getting no support at all. And it was really unfortunate, so now I can tell them they can access this emergency repair program, which is delivered out of which office in Hay River? Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The program's delivered out of the Hay River district office. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from the Deh Cho.

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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you. Mr. Chair, I will advise my constituents to go to this district office and apply for emergency repair programs. Hopefully -- yeah, thank you. That's the question I have. Hopefully they're eligible to receive that funding for their repairs as we're now in June, fall's going to come, and I would really like for them to have that support. Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to -- sorry, any other Members that have questions? I'll go to the Member from Monfwi.

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June 11th

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. This fuel tank replacement for homeowners, I know that's a popular program because a lot of people in my region applied and got their fuel tank replaced and etcetera. So for this fiscal year, I see the program is -- I don't know if it's discontinued, but there's no money allocated. So if the Minister can explain why this fiscal year, because people are going to be asking.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The fuel tank replacement program for homeowners is discontinued for this fiscal year. We encourage all homeowners interested in replacing their fuel tank to use the emergency repair program. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Monfwi.

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June 11th

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Yes, thank you for that information. It's good to know so we can, you know, redirect them to that program.

Another one too is that -- here, so all this housing programs, it's a good program because I know a lot of -- like, we've been, you know, advocating for a lot of people and to apply for these programs. So I just wanted to ask all these programs that's in place, are they based on income threshold? Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, all the programs are based on the core need income threshold, and it depends on which region they live in for the different types of income thresholds. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Monfwi.

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June 11th

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. No, well, it's in my region and it's in her region, in all the North, because especially for seniors and elders aging in place, it's difficult for them to make ends meet so they -- you know, like, they do part-time job here and there or contract work and when income tax season comes, you know, a lot of times some of them they're denied the program. So I just want to ask the Minister if they can increase the income threshold to accommodate elders, retirees, so they can -- so they can apply for these programs, be eligible for the programs. Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is some of the work that we're doing over the next little while is review of the core need income threshold and also the rental scale. Both the rental scale and the core need income threshold haven't been reviewed since 2012, so we're doing some of the work behind that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Monfwi.

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June 11th

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. That's all I have for this on this page. Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Are there any further questions? I'm going to go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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June 11th

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So there's been some sort of concerns circulating amongst constituents that programs for homeownership assistance are being cut or they won't have opportunities to get help in purchasing homes. Now, I do see that the home purchase program is being maintained. If we go back to page 383, we certainly see a bit of a decrease in the homeownership entry level program. Can the Minister explain, so that it's clear to everyone in the public too, are some of the homeownership assistance programs being cut, and is there a shift towards a different type of assistance towards homeownership? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The fuel tank replacement program for homeowners is the only one that has been discontinued for this fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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June 11th

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair. And the homeownership entry level program, is that a type of homeownership assistance program and is that one being cut? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister to the question.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

The homeownership entry level and market housing program was a program that was introduced in 2007. It was 300 housing units across the Northwest Territories. Housing NWT would work with clients to offer a two to three-year program with the HELP program, so they would take on that unit after two to three years. This is continued to 2024 so we're, like, almost 20 years still running a program that was supposed to be discontinued in 2009-2010. So what we're doing with Housing NWT is we're going to look at the remaining clients. I think we have about 50 remaining clients, and council them to take on the unit as part of their home, to buy it as their home, through a forgivable loan program. And the other units that have been vacated or given back to Housing NWT will either become public units or market homes. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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June 11th

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair. That's more clear, I think. If we go down to the preventative maintenance program, and so it looks like the budget is being decreased from where it was last year. It's still a little bit above the 2022-2023, but it also seems like it would be super valuable to -- you know, the description of the program is assisting households to complete preventative maintenance, making minor servicing repairs, which seems like exactly the type of thing that we need to be doing more of so we don't end up with more costs and renovations and new homes always having to be built. Can you explain why it's being decreased from last year's funding levels? Was it fully subscribed? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Vice-president Martin will answer this question, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

I'll go to the president -- sorry, vice-president.

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June 11th

Jim Martin

Thank you, Mr. Chair. There was an internal budget adjustment made for 2024-2025. There was a reallocation of funds from the preventative maintenance program to the community housing support initiative program. We wanted to increase the community housing services program while at the same time maintaining a sufficient level of program budget to accommodate current client need. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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June 11th

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

So the proposed budget amount for preventative maintenance program for this year, 2024-2025, at $932,000, is that going to be sufficient to meet all of the needs or the applications that you would have coming in based on, say, last year's level of applications, or will there be people who get turned away with that amount of funding in that pot? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The number proposed is based on actuals from last fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

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June 11th

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Okay, that's good to know. So my last question is if for some reason we do have, you know, a lot more people coming forward this year wanting to do preventative maintenance, it seems like something we would really, really want to support, would there be ways to shuffle around money from other pots, such as the emergency repair program or something, to be able to accommodate people wanting to do preventative maintenance? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, Housing NWT would look for that internally. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I got a hand up from the Deh Cho for one additional question.

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June 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I was so excited I forgot to ask one more question, so I have this other question. I was so happy residents might be able to access a program to assist them with their living conditions. The criteria, I wanted to know what is the criteria for the emergency repair program? Thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. President Young is looking for the information at this moment. But when we look at applications for emergency repair or homeownership, we do have a number of things that clients would have to be eligible for, including our core need income threshold, so they have to be within that threshold to be applicable. They also have to have title to the home. And President Young can provide more information to this question. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the president.

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June 11th

Eleanor Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In addition to what the Minister said, this program is intended for urgent health and safety repairs is really what it's targeted to. It's a maximum of $15,000, and it's forgivable within the year. So clients can apply in successive years if they require that kind of emergency assistance. And, yeah, as the Minister said, income tested. And I think that's the key pieces of it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, thank you. Okay, I'm going to continue on now. Seeing no further questions, we will not be voting on this activity total.

Moving on to housing operations supports starting on page 390. Are there questions? Yes, I want to go to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So earlier, in an earlier section, the Minister clarified that the housing needs assessment and the housing infrastructure deficit assessment mentioned in Housing NWT's business plan will be moving more expeditiously. That's great news. My question is more centered on the business plan in general. And I'm bringing it up here because usually that's a joint production of the folks who are housed in housing -- operations and support.

My question is there are many actions in the Housing NWT business plan that do not have targets, and I'm just wondering if the Minister will be updating and sharing that plan now that there are some changed pieces in it, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, we will be updating the business plan with targets. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's fantastic. And will the Minister be sharing that information publicly? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, that material will be available publicly. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Great Slave.

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Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's good for me, thank you.

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June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Any further questions from Members? Seeing no further questions, we will not be voting on this activity.

Moving on to nonresidential buildings and operations starting on page 392. Are there any questions? I'm going to go to the Member from Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Regarding the housing operations and support, I want to ask the Minister -- she is well aware of it too because she, you know, Tuk is in the same situation as we are in Tlicho region, especially in Behchoko. You know, with the housing crisis we have a waitlist of over 200 applicants on -- you know, in Behchoko alone. And I don't think the waitlist decreased but it increased, it went up because there's more family coming back, that are moving back to the communities, and it's having an effect, you know, on the families that, you know, taking in the family members that just moved back to the community. So I just wanted to ask the Minister if they have a plan in place to eliminate the waitlist, especially in my region, the Tlicho region. Is there a plan in place or, like -- I know that we need more houses. I hope that she will say we need to build more houses, you know, in Tlicho region to eliminate the waitlist. I know Yellowknife is in the same situation too but I'm just -- I'm advocating for my region. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And the waitlist, the housing waitlist, is something that is quite surprising considering the need across the Northwest Territories. And like the MLA mentioned, especially in regions like the Tlicho region, I look at numbers - Fort Smith, Hay River, Inuvik, my community of Tuk, Yellowknife, the waitlist is long. Some of the work that we've done and that we're continuing from the 19th Assembly is addressing some of that waitlist. And then we're also looking at working with the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, especially around income support clients, to determine the viability of the waitlist with the clients as there are stipulations within the policy that they apply for housing. So is that need in terms of waitlist 900 families on the waitlist, or is it something that's much smaller? But, again, we have to do the work through the housing needs assessment to determine that as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you for the information, yeah. So that's all I have for this page.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Are there any other questions for page 392? Seeing none, again we will not be voting on this activity total.

Moving on to the rent subsidy program starting at page 394. Are there any questions? Seeing no further questions, we will not be voting on this activity total.

Moving on to unilateral CMHC and other programs starting on page 396, with information items on page 398. Are there any questions? Seeing no further questions, we will not be voting on this activity total.

Committee, there are additional information items on page 399. Are there any questions?

Thank you, committee. Please return to the Housing Northwest Territories summary on page 379. Are there any further questions or comments from committee? I'm going to go the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

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Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just a general comment, and maybe a question for clarity. I know initially when certainly the Indigenous government in my region, and likely others, received the federal housing initiative funding, there was a fair amount of work done in cooperation with NWT Housing. Units were built on NWT Housing land I believe, and then transferred for a nominal fee to allow the NWT Housing to add that to their inventory, list of inventory of public housing. So going forward -- and I know now, and I mean we've said it in this House that in my region certainly, you know, the Inuvialuit, I think has just purchased 22 lots in my region. I know the Gwich'in Tribal Council are purchasing lots as well and building their own homes and have set up, you know, some for market rental, some for other programs that they are involved in. So I guess I'd like to hear from the Minister. Did we miss the opportunity, I guess, to continue to work with the Indigenous governments in our region? I notice that work is now kind of they've went on their own with their funding and so yeah, so a couple of questions. Did we miss that opportunity? The previous government obviously missed an opportunity. And how is the relationship now and kind of what are our plans going forward to work together on some potential, whether it be seniors facilities or other facilities that are required in the region, that there may be some redundancies there that we can work together and certainly look at pooling some resources to get that infrastructure built. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I understand the MLA's question, and the work that we do in collaboration with Indigenous governments is critical, especially in advancing our mandate and business plan.

In terms of missing opportunities, I think at this point Indigenous governments, with their distinction base funding that they're getting from the federal government, see that as an opportunity for market houses in their communities, and they're advancing that. They're advancing their own plans. So that's fine with Housing NWT if they want to do that. The thing is that nobody is interested in public or social housing builds. That's going to be the Government of the Northwest Territories' responsibility. They're going to stick with market homes from what I understand. We will continue with public and social housing rentals, and that's the job that we have to do. But what I can do is ask President Young here to provide more information to the question from MLA Rodgers. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the president.

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Eleanor Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And in addition to what the Minister said, there are still some partnership projects in the works. We do have, for example, in the Beaufort riding a joint plan to do an elders' unit where some of the units will be administered through potentially HELP programming, and some will be public housing. That's a conversation that's still underway but we're active in it. We understand that one of the Indigenous governments is hiring two housing staff to work more closely with us because they've been understaffed the last couple years in the housing area, so we'll be able to have a team to work with. We have a new collaborative agreement with the other Indigenous government in your area that we're quite excited about working with. And we're taking all sorts of tacts. We're looking at any land that we may not need that we can make available to the Indigenous government. We'll work with Environment and Climate Change and Municipal and Community Affairs to work on the land needs in addition to what we may be able to support, you know, looking at supporting the development of housing plans. So although it may not be out in the public as much as it has been previously, there is still a lot of work ongoing. And whether it's through formal partnership agreements or just ongoing working group conversations, the activity is still ongoing and work with each other. I think the distinctions-based funding has just given them other work to do. So, you know, some of these partnership projects are not as high on the radar and the public view as they maybe were before. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

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Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you, Madam President, for that information, and Minister Kuptana. I'm very happy to hear that the elders' unit is still in discussion and that we're still -- and the fact that you're looking at working with other departments to make that land available, very important, particularly in the smaller communities and the coast, I know that, in the Minister's riding. So very encouraging to hear that. I would encourage you to sing that from the rooftops, Minister. I think it's a good news story that we need to get out there to let them know that NWT Housing is not now an afterthought for Indigenous governments, that they are, indeed, still working with them, appreciating that, yes, they are doing some of their own initiatives, but I don't think everything they're doing is market rent so to make sure we're involved in that. So no, important to get that out there, and I appreciate the answer. And no questions. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Is there any further questions from Members? I'm going to go to the Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, I want to dig in a little more into a line of questioning that the Member for Inuvik Boot Lake was getting into. So the first question I wanted to ask is it sounds like there's a fair number of builds planned for the coming year and yet infrastructure investment is listed as $13 million. So can the Minister or her staff kind of help me understand what money is actually going out the door? Maybe it is just $13 million, but I thought I heard $33 million is going out the door, we've got $60 million sitting there, so if I could just kind of get a better understanding of how the capital money is budgeted for in this budget and where the other money ends up landing, you know, on this page, I guess. Thanks.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm want to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Like I mentioned, we do have a $93 million carry forward plan in capital, which includes new builds and MMI projects. We also have the $13 million outlined in the 2024-2025 Main Estimates. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from the Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Could I get a bit more detail on kind of what's planned for the builds for this year? Is the Minister able to share any details with us on what exactly they're planning to do with the money?

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you, Mr. Chair. If Vice-President Martin could help me with that answer to be more explicit. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the vice-president.

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Jim Martin

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So as noted previously, this is an updated number for this fiscal, so we have $107 million planned for investment this fiscal year. That's comprised of the following: 283 units for modernization and improvement repair projects. We have 65 that we're currently completing new public housing units. We have transitional housing projects that are underway, and that's going to be ten beds. We have biomass projects on the books right now that will support, in the plan, 99 units, public housing units, to be supported with biomass solutions. We had just recently completed in the plan a four-plex, market housing four-plex in Tulita. We're also in the plan with 75 public housing replacement projects. And that covers the majority of the plan. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair. And please forgive me, I'm kind of writing down all these numbers, and it's all looking like quite a bit of -- this is actually quite a bit of activity. Can the Minister's staff just clarify, all of this that was just listed is occurring in 2024-2025?

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's an impressive amount of work, I must say. I don't know, I'm kind of left sitting here thinking, like wow, we should be telling people about this. This is really exciting stuff. Maybe you are and maybe it's just been falling on deaf ears, I'm not sure. So help me understand, then, so we're spending $107 million. Where does this $60 million of uncommitted funding come into that number?

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

The number that the MLA is referring to is primarily made up of the number for the 50-unit build in Yellowknife and public housing replacement for 2024-2025 to be tendered, yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that clarification. So while the funding may not be tendered, when we say uncommitted there are projects slated for that funding, so that's -- that funding is -- the $60 million is part of this list of builds that you listed out for me -- I'm not going to go through them all again, but it's part of that to occur in 2024-2025?

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Yes, that is correct, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go back to the Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair. Last but not least, I would appreciate it -- it would be much easier for me to keep track of all this -- if the department was able to give us kind of a one or two sheet kind of just summary of this, all the information she just provided me, just so I can have it on hand if that's okay, in writing.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

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Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, we can provide that, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, we're having a good day. Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's going to be it for me for questions on this page. That was a lot of information. Thank you to the Minister and her staff for giving that to me.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Any further questions from Members for page 379? We'll go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I won't be long. I just need a little clarity because it seems like there was a little bit of a contradiction in the answer. When I asked the question out of the $93 million surplus how much was not committed, the answer I got was $60 million was yet to be committed. So did the Minister mean yet to be tendered or yet to be committed?

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister to the question.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, yet to be tendered, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Okay, thank you. So the entire $60 million has projects attached to it, buildings attached to it, for 2024-2025, and then the remainder of the $93 million is carryover from ongoing projects that started last year previous year, is that correct?

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister to the question.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, that's correct. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you. Sorry if I seemed confused, I just want to make sure I have the proper information. And of the $60 million that is earmarked for projects that is yet to be tendered, those projects were all projects that were scheduled for 2024-2025, or are those projects that carried over from previous years and/or projects that will move into next fiscal year?

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, a majority of the projects were carried forward, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Okay. So the majority of the $60 million is projects that weren't done last year. For various and sundry reasons that we discussed earlier about capacity and contractors and so on and so forth? Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair. No further questions.

Committee Motion 31-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Industry, Tourism and Investment - Deferral of Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Is there any further questions? Seeing no further questions, does committee agree that the consideration of Housing Northwest Territories is now complete? Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 32-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Housing Northwest Territories - Deferral of Housing Northwest Territories, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee defer consideration of the main estimates for Housing Northwest Territories at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 32-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Housing Northwest Territories - Deferral of Housing Northwest Territories, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th, 2024

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. The motion's in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 32-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Housing Northwest Territories - Deferral of Housing Northwest Territories, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Committee Motion 32-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Housing Northwest Territories - Deferral of Housing Northwest Territories, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Consideration of Housing Northwest Territories operations expenditure, 2024-2025 Main Estimates, total department, is deferred.

---Carried

Thank you, Minister, and thank you to the witnesses for appearing before us. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witnesses from the chambers. Thank you.

What is the wish of committee? Member for Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 32-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Housing Northwest Territories - Deferral of Housing Northwest Territories, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

Denny Rodgers

Denny Rodgers Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I move the chair rise and report progress. Thank you.

Committee Motion 32-20(1): Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates - Housing Northwest Territories - Deferral of Housing Northwest Territories, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

The motion is in order. The motion is non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

I will now rise and report progress. Thank you.

---SHORT RECESS

Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Report Of Committee Of The Whole

June 11th

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Report Of Committee Of The Whole

June 11th

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Tabled Document 93-20(1), and would like to report progress with two motions carried. And, Mr. Speaker, I move that the Report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Report Of Committee Of The Whole

June 11th

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. Can I have a seconder, please. Member from Nunakput. To the motion?

Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Report Of Committee Of The Whole

June 11th

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Report Of Committee Of The Whole

June 11th

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Absentions? Motion passed.

---Carried

Reports of Committee of the Whole. Third reading of bills. Orders of the day, Mr. Clerk.

Orders Of The Day
Orders Of The Day

June 11th

Clerk Of The House Mr. Glen Rutland

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the day for Wednesday, June 12th, 2024, 1:30 p.m.

  1. Prayer
  2. Ministers' Statements
  3. Members' Statements
  4. Returns to Oral Questions
  5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
  6. Acknowledgements
  7. Oral Questions
  8. Written Questions
  9. Returns to Written Questions
  10. Replies to the Commissioner's Address
  11. Petitions
  12. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
  13. Reports of Standing and Special Committees
  14. Tabling of Documents
  15. Notices of Motion
  16. Motions
  • Motion 34-20(1): Supporting RCMP Response to Mental Health
  • Motion 35-20(1): Emergency Plan Support for Municipalities and Community Governments
  1. Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills
  2. First Reading of Bills
  3. Second Reading of Bills
  • Bill 7, Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act
  • Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act
  1. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
  • Tabled Document 93-20(1): 2024-2025 Main Estimates
  • Tabled Document 111-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025
  1. Report of the Committee of the Whole
  2. Third Reading of Bills
  3. Orders of the Day

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Orders Of The Day
Orders Of The Day

June 11th

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Mr. Clerk.

This House stands adjourned until Wednesday, June 12th, 2024, at 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 5:15 p.m.