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Motion 63-20(1): Creation of an Emergency Management Agency, Carried
Motions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I do, and I shall.

Mr. Speaker, thank you very much to the Members who spoke in support of the bill. You know, I do want to reflect as Members -- the bill, the motion. The motion; it's not a bill. Thank you for the correction. Not a full Point of Order but technically important.

So this all started -- Members have alluded to this, but one of the first substantive motions that we debated in this chamber of this Assembly was for a public inquiry, and the reason it is related to the motion is this report emerged from that. So we wouldn't have this report without that motion. And Members did speak to this directly.

Now, Mr. Speaker, if this was to replace a public process, I don't think it's done a good job. And we hear the concerns from Members, in particular Members from outside of regional centres. Mr. Speaker, I won't quote from the report again. Members have done that. It's very clear that the findings were significant.

And another concern I suppose I have over the course of this conversation in this chamber is publicly reported rationale for not accepting the recommendation was largely around fiscal capacity, the fact that it would be an offseason agency, that it's not really necessary because of those reasons. Today we're hearing a different story where it is we're doing it all already from the sounds of it. We have an EMO office. It does all the things that the recommendation made. But it does beg the question, as raised by the Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, if TSI knew this coming in, the structure hasn't drastically changed in two years. So the structure is not novel. The structure has not undergone major reform. There's been improvements. Absolutely, the Minister spoke to those improvements. But it's the underlying structure that was recommended for change. And that's what we're talking about here. You know, we're not saying progress hasn't been made. But we're saying progress on this fundamental recommendation, the skeleton of our entire system of how we manage emergencies, that's unaffected. And until that changes, until we deal with what you could call root causes of a lack of emergency preparedness, we will continue to experience them.

Mr. Speaker, governments in Canada are all moving towards dedicated public safety ministries and agencies. The Minister's list of where agencies work similarly to ours apparently, even though some of the best practiced standards are similar models, you know, there are departments of public safety, there are departments of justice in public safety. And emergency -- EMO management is part of those operations. So, again, if a ministry -- a ministry can do this work as well, and it's something that Northerners need, you know. It's something Northerners need. Not just wildfire management but public safety generally, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, one of the things I'm also concerned about, the report at large, is it speaks frequently to the need for a culture of safety throughout the government, not just in one office, but throughout the government, and numerous recommendations made, including recommendations around incident command management system training and usage are -- only speak to what's happening in the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and not across the whole government. We'd like to have whole of government approaches, at least we like to talk about it. So if we're going to have a culture of safety and we need to do -- we need to have structural institutions of safety. That is what they're getting at when they're making these recommendations. It's not that we're not doing stuff; it's that we're not doing -- again, we're not changing the underlying culture of the GNWT as it relates to this important priority.

Mr. Speaker, okay, I think we've -- I sense that we should move on. We have other business to attend to. But, Mr. Speaker, I do also agree that I don't want to see a recommendation 120 days that says we already told you we weren't going to do it, we're not going to do it now. So this is very unusual. I've never done this before, but I'm going to urge the Members opposite who seek to abstain to vote against this because I'd rather have a vote against on the record if they're not going to respond to this in a meaningful way. Because that's the antithesis of what this motion is supposed to do. It's supposed to consider the clauses, evaluate them, and respond with an open mind, not a mind already made up. So if they're going to vote against, I encourage them to vote against it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Motion 63-20(1): Creation of an Emergency Management Agency, Carried
Motions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you. Thank you, Member from Range Lake. The Member has asked for a recorded vote. For all those in favour, please stand.

Motion 63-20(1): Creation of an Emergency Management Agency, Carried
Motions

Clerk Of The House Mr. Glen Rutland

The Member for Range Lake. The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. The Member for Frame Lake. The Member for Great Slave. The Member for Mackenzie Delta. The Member for Yellowknife North. The Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. The Member for Sahtu. The Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Motion 63-20(1): Creation of an Emergency Management Agency, Carried
Motions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

All those opposed, please stand. All those abstaining, please stand.

Motion 63-20(1): Creation of an Emergency Management Agency, Carried
Motions

Clerk Of The House Mr. Glen Rutland

The Member for Thebacha. The Member for Yellowknife South. The Member for Hay River North. The Member for Hay River South. The Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. The Member for Nunakput.

Motion 63-20(1): Creation of an Emergency Management Agency, Carried
Motions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Colleagues, 9 in favour. Zero opposed. 6 abstaining. The motion has been carried.

---Carried

Motions. Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from the Sahtu.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to welcome Ms. Christina Gaudet to the House here. Christina has been a friend to the family here for many decades, and she's the regional superintendent of MACA for the Sahtu region. Welcome.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from the Yellowknife Centre.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to try to recognize each session -- or, you know, to the best of my ability, one of the interpreters, one of my friends, Ms. Sarah Cleary. She puts in an enormous amount of work keeping up with us. Sometimes when we get going too fast, I do worry about the hard work she has to do, but I'm very grateful that Sarah here is representing her language and the spirit of her community, and she's a Sahtu constituent in Yellowknife. So anyway, I'm always grateful to see her. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Nunakput.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Lucy Kuptana

Lucy Kuptana Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize two pages from the Nunakput riding. Nita Lucas and Emery Keogak are from the Inualthuyak School in Sachs Harbour. And just to add, I just want to recognize Nita because she's harvested two polar bears. So that's a pretty amazing individual. Powerful woman in the territory, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

To add to the Members, her first polar bear was when she was 11 years old.

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Hay River North.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize a resident of Hay River, Ms. Bette Lyons, who somehow has managed to sit through much of this week's proceedings, so I commend her for that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Hay River North. I kind of asked the question if you were going to recognize anybody this session there.

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Hay River South.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Vince McKay

Vince McKay Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would also like to recognize Christine Gaudet in the gallery. She's a dedicated MACA employee. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Hay River South. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we missed anyone in the gallery today, welcome to your chamber. I'd like to thank you very much for allowing us 19 to represent the people of the Northwest Territories. I hope you're enjoying the proceedings. It's always nice to have people in the gallery.

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Acknowledgements. Colleagues, being respectful of the time, and I know how long we're going to be going, we're going to have to call a break for our translators. Thank you.

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Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)

October 23rd, 2025

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Member from the Sahtu.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, if I can request on returning to the number 6, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mahsi.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you. Member from the Sahtu is asking unanimous consent to return to recognition of visitors in the gallery. Seeing no nays, you may return. Member from the Sahtu.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues there. We can't forget about our youth. I'd like to recognize two pages there, Alex Aviugana from the community of Colville Lake. And Nevaeh Jackson from Fort Good Hope. Welcome to the House there, young people. Mahsi.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too want to recognize a young page from my riding, Matthew Unka. Mahsi.

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. I'm going to jump on the boat from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh and recognize Matthew Unka who used to be from Fort Simpson and was taught by my daughter who had to say make sure I send her a picture of him. So welcome here. Thank you.

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Oral questions. Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Oral Questions
Oral Questions

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my communities urgently need more RCMP members. Up to 40 percent of positions in the North are unfilled, and a higher turnover disrupts relationships with the local law enforcement partners. With the federal government recently announcing 1,000 new RCMP hires nationwide, my question is to the justice Minister what are you doing with the federal colleagues to bring more RCMP north to the Northwest Territories and to the small communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Oral Questions
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. Minister of Justice.