Minister of Environment and Climate Change.
Debates of March 4th, 2025
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Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I think that we'll certainly be able to provide that information in a high-level kind of generic to, you know, protect the privacy of the applicants. But I don't see why we couldn't provide that information for the Members. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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The Chair Sheryl Yakeleya
Okay. No further questions, please turn to page 93.
Environment and Climate Change, policy and strategic planning, operations expenditure summary, 2025-2026 Main Estimates, $13,294,000. Does the committee agree?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Sheryl Yakeleya
Committee, we're going to take a short break for the interpreters. Thank you.
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The Chair Sheryl Yakeleya
Thank you. We are moving on to regulatory, assessment and authorizations, beginning on page 97 with information items on page 100. Are there any questions? Member for Frame Lake.
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Julian Morse Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. Just let me get my computer logged in here; still just coming off the break. Okay, thank you, Madam Chair.
I wanted to ask some questions about something that's come up a number of times about bulk land transfers. So I just really want to first ask what is getting in the way of transferring land to the city of Yellowknife? Thank you.
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Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, this has been an ongoing issue for the bulk land transfer with the city of Yellowknife. We've attempted -- we've had -- I won't say attempted, we've had many conversations with the city and we're currently in the process of looking at a smaller scale approach to the bulk land transfer than was initially envisioned. But I will pass to deputy minister to provide a little bit more detail. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Jenkins
Thank you, Madam Chair. We've had some really positive discussions with the city in the last few months, and we're working towards -- really, the city's going to be looking towards identifying some -- its priorities for land transfers and sort of bringing a bit of focus into -- for us to be able to work with them towards moving. And we're looking at establishing -- we've been talking with the city manager about having a memorandum of collaboration between the department and between the city on this issue. So one that's very important and the city is looking at sort of identifying its priorities and that can give us some focus and hopefully we can work together to transfer some land to the city. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Julian Morse Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. And I am excited to hear that from the deputy minister. I'm glad to hear that you've been meeting. Glad to hear that you're making some progress and identifying specifics to move forward on. It's certainly a priority for myself, and I think for the Assembly generally, to ensure that land transfers are happening, and it's a priority for the department as indicated in the business plan.
Can the Minister perhaps elaborate a bit, do we have any legislation -- I know that the Land Titles Act is involved here. So is there anything the Minister can tell us about aspects of that Act that might, if changed, would be able to speed up this kind of process? Just noting that it's been taking quite a while from identification of the issue to being able to find a resolution; we're still not there. If the Minister or his staff could discuss it further, I'd appreciate some more information. Thanks.
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Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, it certainly has been a challenging file from the perspective of -- within the legislation, there are certain requirements which impact more the small communities than the larger communities if you're talking about the need for like development plans, appropriate bylaws within communities that will meet the requirement under the Act to do the transfers. And specifically to the changes to the Act, I would rather have the deputy minister speak to that directly. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Jenkins
Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. So, you know, we are working with communities on areas that they've identified interest for land transfers and to -- you know, there are a number of requirements under our legislation and the legislation, you know, including the Land Titles Act and there's the Cities, Towns, and Villages Act, the Community Planning and Development Act and, you know, these things do include things like surveys, bylaws that allow the community to acquire, administer, and control the land, community plans for proper zoning and, of course, we have consultation, section 35 requirements that we have to undertake. And, you know, our focus right now is to work with communities to identify and try to prioritize the areas that they're interested in, in particular for housing. As you can appreciate, and I'm sure everyone can appreciate, the amount of time that it does take to change legislation is substantive and the housing need is now, so we're working to focus on that and the priorities that are in the communities within and to use our resources towards that goal. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Julian Morse Frame Lake
Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. And I do appreciate the department keeping the fire burning on that and setting it as a priority and moving that forward.
I am curious to know -- I mean, my understanding is that some of the issues related to kind of dated legislation were supposed to be addressed by the new Public Lands Act. Why have we not made more progress on implementing that Act? It looks to me like the review substantially happened five years ago, and yet we don't have it in place. Can the department kind of help us understand what's the hold up. Thank you.
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Jay MacDonald Thebacha
Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, the department has been working on the PLAR for -- the Public Land Act regulations for a while. And if my recollection is correct, there's been a couple of particular points that have been somewhat challenging through that process, and we continue to work toward a resolution on those specific items. But I will pass to deputy minister Jenkins to provide a little bit more detail. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Jenkins
Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, we're continuing to do work on the Public Land Act regulations through the IGC technical working group. There's just a number of areas where we're working through issues with the Indigenous governments, interaction between some of the land administration, land use permitting aspects, and aspects that are carried out by land and water boards. That's one example. So there's a number of issues that we're sort of working through through that collaborative process, and it is work that we hope to advance in the next fiscal year and be able to bring that Act into force. Thank you, Madam Chair.