I'm not here to hurt his feelings so I'll drop -- withdraw. Thank you.
Debates of May 26th, 2025
This is page numbers of the Hansard for the 20th Assembly, 1st Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was know.
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Question 711-20(1): Northwest Territories Nominee Program Extensions
Oral Questions
Question 711-20(1): Northwest Territories Nominee Program Extensions
Oral Questions

The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. Yellowknife Centre, to your question.
Question 711-20(1): Northwest Territories Nominee Program Extensions
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I was proceeding to my point -- thank you -- I'm getting at is why doesn't the Member -- Minister engage Members as being part of the solution rather than this wall of we know everything and stay out of our way? Thank you.
Question 711-20(1): Northwest Territories Nominee Program Extensions
Oral Questions

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the information that I have that empowers me as Minister, and a role that I carry because of the trust of the majority of this House, was to do my job. Part of my job is travelling to Ottawa. Part of my job is also talking to stakeholders. Stakeholders in this case have been very open about what it is they're looking for. That formed the letter. That is what I am now taking to Ottawa.
Bit is also worth saying, Mr. Speaker, that the Constitution gives the federal government exclusive jurisdiction over immigration. They have allowed us as provincial and territorial governments to administer parts of that program for them, but I cannot change the Constitution because a Member wants me to. Thank you.
Question 711-20(1): Northwest Territories Nominee Program Extensions
Oral Questions

The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. Oral questions. Member from Yellowknife North.
Question 712-20(1): Nurse Practitioners
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask some questions of the Minister of Health and Social Services about nurse practitioners.
So I've heard from many nurse practitioners in the NWT who report not being able to practice to their full scope and, certainly, we had a lot of gaps in our system that we need filled, and there might be potential for nurse practitioners to fill some of those roles. So my first question is what is the NTHSSA or health and social services doing to ensure that nurse practitioners can practice to their full scope and ability? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 712-20(1): Nurse Practitioners
Oral Questions

The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Member from Yellowknife North. Minister of Health and Social Services.
Question 712-20(1): Nurse Practitioners
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If Mr. Speaker would be kind enough to let me respond to this one, so I might need a little bit more time but if not, you can let me know. Because I think a lot of these answers, to fully understand how nurses are regulated are going to take a lot more time than I have left. So what I will say is that nurse practitioners are regulated through CAN. The nurse practitioner scope of practice is defined by legislation and applies to standards of practice through CAN. Operationally, nurse practice is aligned with the role for which they are hired. So, example, a nurse practitioner working in renal care would be expected to practice to their fullest scope within that area of practice; however, this might look quite different for a nurse practitioner working in primary care. I have a lot more information to answer that, so I would be glad to share that with the Member and any -- and all the Members. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 712-20(1): Nurse Practitioners
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do look forward to further discussion on this. I understand it's somewhat of a complex topic.
Before the team-based approach, nurse practitioners working in primary care in the NWT had their own patients assigned to them. On the current teams, though, the nurse practitioners are not allowed to be the most responsible provider. In some cases, patient have been forced to break their connection with the NT who used to be their provider. So is the NTHSSA planning to allow nurse practitioners to take on the role of most responsible provider once again? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 712-20(1): Nurse Practitioners
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as this has only been implemented in the capital through the primary care clinic, the team-based approach, we are currently, you know, rolling it out in different areas of the territory. But in Yellowknife region right now, the nurse practitioners on the team do provide a full care with their scope to patients that are assigned to them. From the moving to -- from the old clinic space to the Liwego'ati, as it relates to nurse practitioners practice has not reduced their scope and historically nurse practitioners have not had patients specifically paneled to them on their team, but they -- you know, they were part of that panel, and when they changed the paneling, there was a lot of the patients with -- that were working with certain nurse practitioners and physicians were paneled together so that way those changes could extend. But, however, with the model of care with primary care, it is basically through that team approach is to being seen the best health professional that is to their need. And then if it needs to be bumped up to a nurse practitioner or to the physician, that would happen through that plan of care. Again, we can have this more further information and conversation so I don't take out the clock. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 712-20(1): Nurse Practitioners
Oral Questions

The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Final supplementary. Member from Yellowknife North.
Question 712-20(1): Nurse Practitioners
Oral Questions

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So I'm also told that nurse practitioners are only allocated about $2,000 a year for continuing education, but it often costs significantly more than that to keep up the professional development training they need to fulfill their license requirements. So how will the NTHSSA ensure that nurse practitioners are allocated a sufficient professional development allowance that reflects their level of responsibility and expertise? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 712-20(1): Nurse Practitioners
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And, Mr. Speaker, first of all I'd like to say, like, you know this type of feedback is the valued feedback that we have received and that we are examining ways to increase professional development support. With right now what we have is the PDI, which is a fixed current funding envelope for all health care staff, however, allocating more to the nurse practitioners in this right now would actually decrease it to the health practitioners that are in this. The program is -- it's actually related to their jurisdiction. So whether you live in Yellowknife, you may get $2,000 where a core of our nurse practitioners are, so that's why the Member might be saying there's a cap. But, for instance, if you live in the Beaufort Delta, you get additional because it'll take in account the costs maybe to travel to access some training that they may be required to do. However, this has been taken in account, and we are trying to find ways to work it into our new people strategy to look at all of the professionals. We even have a nurse practitioner lead that is it looking at job descriptions to ensure that, you know, the things that are needed and to be able to provide on -- in-house training as well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 712-20(1): Nurse Practitioners
Oral Questions

The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Oral questions. Member from Range Lake.
Question 713-20(1): Staffing of Yellowknife Emergency Department
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I know -- I spy some healthcare workers in the gallery, so I thought I'd ask some health care questions to the Minister of Health and Social Services.
Will the Minister of Health and Social Services give her guarantee to this House that Stanton Hospital's emergency department will have an emergency physician physically present for all times this summer 24 hours a day, 7 days a week? Thank you.
Question 713-20(1): Staffing of Yellowknife Emergency Department
Oral Questions

The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Member from Range Lake. Minister of Health and Social Services.
Question 713-20(1): Staffing of Yellowknife Emergency Department
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, within the -- with the Member's question, what I can say, as the schedule as developed, we have been scheduling physicians, emergency room physicians. Beyond what the development of the schedule is, I would have to get back to the Member as the schedule is developed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 713-20(1): Staffing of Yellowknife Emergency Department
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart Range Lake
Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. That didn't sound like a guarantee and I'd like to -- perhaps we could see the schedule at some point, but that might be breaching operational concerns. But I will ask this: If we can't get a guarantee, what is the Minister's answer to a patient who arrives at Stanton ER for emergency treatment, there's no emergency physician, what does the Minister want them to do to get emergency care? Thank you.
Question 713-20(1): Staffing of Yellowknife Emergency Department
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when any Northwest Territories resident arrives to any health facility, they are triaged. And especially in the emergency, there is the triage, the CTAST that every patient is triaged. And so based on their -- what their complaints are and what they're coming in for, then that is what designates their priority. If like their symptoms or something changed while they're waiting to -- they're encouraged to go back to the registrar and have a nurse reassess them. There are -- you know, and I think the thing what I would like to say is that the staff that are working in emergency, you know -- and I hear what the Members are saying and I'm not -- you know, I'm not trying to sugar coat it. They're working hard. And, yes, there's a lot of things going on. There's medevacs coming in. There's physicians on the phone with small communities while there's people sitting in the waiting rooms, you know, the struggles that we've heard of accessing appointments and things like that, those are all on the -- like, those are things that they're currently, you know, working with. You know, I've had conversations with the PA just as recent as today on an update on the primary care clinic. So there are ongoing things that they're continuously trying to improve in the capital to improve the lives of the residents here as well as outside of Yellowknife. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 713-20(1): Staffing of Yellowknife Emergency Department
Oral Questions

The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Final supplementary. Member from Range Lake.
Question 713-20(1): Staffing of Yellowknife Emergency Department
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart Range Lake
Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm glad to hear that we're talking about the whole territory, not pitting regions against each other. To that end, we know that the Inuvik hospital often suffers similar shortages and staff. Can the Minister guarantee to this House that labour and delivery services at the Inuvik hospital will remain open over the summer, preventing moms and their families from travelling to Yellowknife, or farther, to have their babies? Thank you.
Question 713-20(1): Staffing of Yellowknife Emergency Department
Oral Questions

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this was one of the reasons why, you know, we have an anesthetist, we have physicians that have -- we have to have the backup for cesarean sections to be able to provide services for labour and delivery and, you know, our physicians also need to go on vacation. So with the locum, the new locum rates, we're hoping that we can encourage locum and aesthetics and, you know, and GPs to come up to help with our physicians so that they can take the time off that they need as well as the nurses. As long as I've been in Inuvik, the nurses that do provide the obstetrics are our local core -- the ones that live there, they have their families there, and they need their time off too. So we will work by using any means to be able to keep that services open; however, we need to ensure that we have the staff there to do it safely. So what I'm committing to is to making sure that we are providing safe obstetric services, you know, and if it becomes where we do not have a service, then, you know, we will have to transition to Yellowknife. Right now, I haven't had that so hopefully that doesn't change over the summer. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 713-20(1): Staffing of Yellowknife Emergency Department
Oral Questions

The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Minister of Health and Social Services. Oral questions. Member from Yellowknife Centre.
Question 714-20(1): Northwest Territories Nominee Program Extensions
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to follow up with a further question with the Minister of ECE.
So we've been told by elected officials outside of this House that the Minister has been offered 150 nominees if the GNWT demonstrates their utilization rates for asylum seekers, Mr. Speaker, through the program. Basically, take 150 refugees and get 150 -- and just to be clear, take 50 refugees and get 150 nominees. Can the Minister confirm this? Thank you.
Question 714-20(1): Northwest Territories Nominee Program Extensions
Oral Questions