Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in case I forget later, let me just say at the outset, Cabinet, when we are given direction to abstain, we'll be abstaining today.
But, Mr. Speaker, first, I heard the mover of the motion make the point that this is an opportunity for some discussion and debate. I will talk about energy any time someone will let me. So I am mindful of my time, Mr. Speaker, and it's been a long day already, so I won't take the 20 minutes I hope, but I have a lot to say about energy. It is urgent that the entire territory be aware of the challenges of the energy systems that we have here. We, right now, Mr. Speaker, of course, have many communities who are on no grid whatsoever. We have multiple micro grids across this entire territory. We are not on the North American energy system. I think not enough Canadians, frankly, realize that 40 percent of this land mass is not on the North American energy grid. These three territories are isolated. They are isolated. They rely on diesel. Even where we have -- the hydro communities, even where we have the redundancy in the backup of some renewables, our backup is always diesel. So it puts us at such a disadvantage. It puts us at such a disadvantage when costs become volatile, as they will with what's happening in the world right now.
I am deeply concerned when I think about what's going to happen to gas prices. It is going to dramatically affect the three northern territories of Canada in a way that this country is, I suggest, not prepared for and not really thinking about right now. The three territories need to be thinking about it. But what options do we have?
Mr. Speaker, our major facilities, our major energy facilities, were built years ago. Taltson was originally built for Pine Point mine, an industrial consumer that could actually afford to pay for power rates. Snare was built originally for the Yellowknife Giant mine gold mine. And Bluefish was built originally for Miramar. That's who was funding our big energy projects. None of those projects are around today, and we are now left with what's left of that infrastructure. That's what's holding us together for the communities that have the good fortune to be on those systems.
So, Mr. Speaker, 100 percent agree it is a dire situation. I can't go back 20 years. I don't know what discussions were had in this House at that time. I don't know to what discussions -- or to what extent energy was at that time being put forward as a critical and crisis level thing that should have been dealt with. I can say, Mr. Speaker, that some of the energy systems that we have are overdue for being fixed, overdue for being overhauled, overdue for being looked at. And that puts us at a disadvantage because it means that now here we are with so many challenges and so many needs spread across the whole of the territory, and we're having to do everything all at once. But we do have to do everything all at once.
So, Mr. Speaker, with respect to some of the subsidies in the meanwhile that we do have in place, I do want the public to be aware of them. There's a lot that actually does get put into our energy system right now which, Mr. Speaker, that money comes from somewhere. We're either raising taxes, or we're cutting programs, or we're not doing something else. So every time we spend a dollar -- we don't print money in the Northwest Territories. We still have to maintain a budget. If we go into debt, that is still we have to pay for the debt. So there is a fine balance in here somewhere, Mr. Speaker. I can't just say we'll just spend more, just give more. It does not fix it. And I think one of the Members said it's a band-aid solution; it's not a base solution. And I totally agree with that. It is time to get to base solutions. Overdue, but we're doing our best.
So that folks are aware of just how much public dollars are already being spent: The 2030 Energy Strategy, between 2018-2025 invested over $207 million in energy initiatives to support reliability and affordability. Of these, there was about $16 million that went to cost-saving initiatives and -- which is a cumulative $67 million in energy savings for residents. So, again, a lot of the money that Arctic Energy Alliance puts forward, Mr. Speaker, is in areas of affordability, of energy efficiency. A lot of programs are programs to which the public can actually apply and businesses can apply, and I can't encourage people enough to go to that system and go to -- or rather, go to that organization and see if there's opportunities there for people. We have put in about $37 million over six years to support some of those programs. But, again, Mr. Speaker, a theme I want to start coming back to is the role that we can all play as leaders is to really raise, I would say, a collective voice about the urgency of the problem and to be right-headed and honest about the situation we find ourselves in because for a two-year period, we lost $17 million in funding from the federal government to these programs. And it went -- and we were told it went from funding energy efficiency programs over to funding heat pumps, which might work in some parts of the territory although Enercan's website itself says they don't work after minus 25 last time I checked. So, again, we need to be united and consistent and clear as leaders when we are speaking to colleagues in other parliamentary systems, colleagues within the federal government, anyone else we're having the opportunity at the conferences we might attend, at connections we might have, about what is the reality here that we are facing. And that was one of the realities. The work -- that's working because the money got put back in this year, quite relieved to say.
The GHD grant program was $10 million over six years, and public housing provides Housing NWT's energy management strategy to support clients in public housing. We have, of course, the territorial power support program. This means that everyone who is in a thermal community, so residents that are outside of Yellowknife, they have their power rates reduced down just to be at the Yellowknife rate. This was $8.8 million in 2024-2025. There is the GNWT's rate equalization program. This is designed to equalize power rates across the territory for Naka-supplied communities down to those compared in the NTPC-supplied communities. This is a smaller round. There's not as many, obviously, communities that need to come down outside of Yellowknife. It's only $.15 million for 2024-2025. Last but not least, there is the government electricity rates program, Mr. Speaker. And what this means is that the GNWT can in NTPC-supplied communities actually pay higher rates because it helps keep the rates down for residents. And that comes in at $6.9 million for 2024-2025, Mr. Speaker.
On top of that are the shocks that we have seen from low water. This -- and from the attempts to actually change the structures that we have. I know another one of the Members said this accurately, when we're paying for infrastructure, when utility pays for infrastructure, that has to be paid in one of two ways, and it is either the ratepayer themselves, which means they're paying even higher costs, which is simply not tenable for all of the reasons we've said, or it can fall to the government. And so, Mr. Speaker, we do have that when the Inuvik wind project had some capital cost increases. That came at $38 million. In 2024-2025, we announced yet another four-year subsidy program to deal with the low water impacts as well as the inflation coming out of COVID, $48 million over a four-year period, three-year period. And now, Mr. Speaker, again -- and this has already been referenced -- this is another 48 million -- or another $30 million is anticipated likely to continue to support the GRA program that we went through recently and the rising costs that are coming in.
Now, that brings me perhaps briefly to the PUB, Mr. Speaker. Having some sort of oversight and some sort of external oversight to power rates and power costs is standard, and it is a good thing in the sense that it gives everyone in the public some assurance that the rates and the expenditures that are utilized in a utility company are evaluated, are considered, they're tested, so that there's not excess put into that system and that when the expenses are put forward that those expenses are expenses that are justified.
Mr. Speaker, I will also say -- and I really do want to highlight that these are -- these are the subsidy-type programs. These are the monies that are being put in to keep rates down, to keep rates manageable. That's the today solution so that people aren't paying even more higher rates than what they were. The Yukon is facing a 30 percent rate hike coming up right away, and they have some significant challenges in their supply. They are unlikely to be able to supply the power needs over the coming years. So they have a double hit coming to them. Nunavut, I believe just today or recently put out a news article that they are $30 million in the hole because they don't collect all of their accounts owing, and that's after they provide significant subsidies on their fuel costs. So all three territories are in a tough place.
All three, though, Mr. Speaker, are working very hard, in my view, to try to truly change the narrative on power and are often speaking with one voice to the federal government at federal tables that I am at -- finance, infrastructure, energy and mines Ministers -- always and consistently raise with the federal government that they must see the three territories as different.
The history of infrastructure here, as I said, the three major infrastructure investments were built for the mining sector. They were not built as public infrastructure. They were not constructed the way power lines may have been strung across different parts of the country, the way power lines may have been opened up alongside, you know, railway routes and highway routes. We simply don't have that core foundation of infrastructure on which to build here in the North.
The federal government now seems to be changing things a little bit. There is the major projects office now. There is significant talk of investment in the North. The Arctic infrastructure fund is now starting to see itself roll out in a meaningful way, so we can direct some of our applications there. It's all good news, Mr. Speaker, but again, I will come back to what I said earlier. It is urgent that we all stand up as a territory and as a territory say to everyone out there that is listening that we're ready and that we want to be taken seriously, that we need to build this country north and not just east-west.
There is some really exciting work happening between both utilities, Naka and NTPC, working together in terms of the integrated power systems planning. I know one of my colleagues mentioned this one earlier. I want to highlight it. Again, could this have happened 10 years ago? In my view, yes. But we are here today, and we're making sure that it's happening now. This is an opportunity for us to actually get a meaningful handle on what this territory is going to look like going forward; what do we need to make sure that in 10 more years or 20 more years, our kids aren't standing in this room and asking who made what choices and who did what. We're going to keep the rates where we can today so people can manage, not to suggest that the rates aren't high. But we're going to plan for tomorrow, and that work is really exciting work. And it's also exciting because those utilities are working together, Mr. Speaker, coming together and putting out material so that the public can respond. I would encourage people to check this out. It is online now, and they are beginning those engagements. We really must get a handle on where this territory is going into the future and what kinds of ideas and options and opportunities there are and how we're going to find that balance between affordability, reliability, and sustainability. The three things don't always, one to the other, equal out. They can be challenging offsets between those three values.
But there's other things, Mr. Speaker, that have kicked around forever and are now finally being looked at. Community intermittent power renewable generation caps in the thermal communities, they've been capped on the amount of renewable power that they could generate. Those caps are too low. We need to move them up. We need to encourage communities to be using creative solutions. That's what *dev is there for, so that they can raise those caps and allow communities to generate power in a renewable fashion. And at the same time, we need to then bring that into the system. So independent power producers and participants on net metering, let's figure out how we're going to manage these systems. If you're making your own power, how much are you going to pay? How much do you put into the system? They're not easy solutions, Mr. Speaker, but we cannot kick these questions down the line. Again, these are the questions we should be asking ourselves and focusing on as leaders of the territory.
And then figuring out to independent power producers, Mr. Speaker. There's not a policy for independent power producers. You can't actually be in a situation where, you know, small communities have to one by one sign on and come to some sort of an agreement when they develop interesting and innovative solutions. We need to make this streamlined. We need to make it easy. So, again, we can look back and I -- we don't typically in consensus government tend to say well, that government didn't do something. So, you know, Mr. Speaker, we can only say today this territorial government can do something.
Obviously the GNWT is the one that responds, Mr. Speaker but these challenges are whole of government challenges. Every elected Member has a constituency that they answer to. We have the public that we answer to. We have contacts. We have connections. We have people that we are in touch with and we have ability to access. We can all raise these issues. We can all speak to these challenges, whether it's with our own residents so that they understand, with businesses, with our community governments.
I will say just a couple more things on the big projects, Mr. Speaker.
Taltson is not a silver bullet but connecting our grids for 70 percent of this territory is huge. Connecting our grids in areas that there are now serious interests from major industry to pay for that is also huge. So it certainly is an important project, Mr. Speaker. But there's also -- we have recently signed the Nailii MOU -- this is with the Tlicho government -- to advance the Lac La Martre micro hydro opportunity there. This has been kicked around since 2009. That should come to this floor of this House, Mr. Speaker. It's important that that advance. Mr. Speaker, there is also -- look Deline at micro hydro. That should come to the floor of the House, and it should advance. There's opportunities for micro hydro in Lutselk'e. I would love to see that advance. It's been years that it's been sat around. We have all an opportunity to bring those issues forward, and I would certainly encourage hearing those ideas and opportunities here. They can make a real meaningful difference.
And beyond that, Mr. Speaker, you know, I think I will just conclude again with my last comment which is around the partnership opportunities. This territory has an ability to show Canada how to build big things better and differently, that we can do it in partnership with Indigenous governments, in partnership with the people whose lands the wires will traverse, who will be -- whose lands the generating capacity is on, and we have a chance here to show Canada, to show the world, that when you build the big things it doesn't have to be the way it was in the 60s or the 70s or even the 80s. So I would implore us all, as the federal government is looking at us, talking big dollars and looking at the MPO or the major projects office, we can all stand up and say that we're ready, that we're ready to be partners, that we're going to figure out how to be partners. And we're not going to fight over the pie, we're going to make the pie bigger, and we're going to make it strong, and we're going to bring it power. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.