Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for Minister Michael Miltenberger. To his surprise, it will be under his Environment and Natural Resources hat for a change.

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I saw a smile. Mr. Speaker, I have a constituent who has a cabin out in the Cameron River area. I went to visit them, at their urging, two weeks ago. I have raised this issue in the House a number of times, but the fact is that people are out clear-cutting, making trails and making roads that do not exist on any map, and they are establishing them by driving all over the brush, building campfires, leaving toilet paper, Tim Hortons' paraphernalia; who knows, it never ends. While I was visiting this area, there were shots being fired nearby, so I certainly hope someone was lining up their sights, as opposed to shooting at me or game in the near area. Mr. Speaker, what is being done in this area that I speak of, to protect that area? I would like to hear that from the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well I've heard the Minister many times say the decision has been made. It appears it's been made simply on political reasons, but we could make bureaucratic reasons to come up with reasons why we need this service to continue in Yellowknife. So if the Minister says it's just a plane ride over, well it's just a plane ride over from Hay River to Yellowknife, too. So I would consider the Minister considering a service in Hay River, but I wish also to continue to say this service needs to stay in Yellowknife. What indication does this Minister need from the people of Yellowknife, from the families of Yellowknife, and its workers at the TTC, or the kids at the TTC, what to make a political decision by saying heck, let's break the bread into two and we'll have services everywhere? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, again, we seem to be avoiding the question, which is about leaving the service here or continuing a service here in Yellowknife. I guess the Minister doesn't seem to want to answer it, so I'll try asking it maybe a different way, which is what does the Minister need to hear from the community? Does he need a petition? Does he need a bonfire outside with people saying hey, look at us, we want this here? What does the Minister need to hear to realize this service is important to the community, and the hearts of the young children that are going to this centre? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess the Minister didn't hear the question, or maybe it was just too obvious, which is, what indicators, political or bureaucratic or other, does the Minister need to see or hear from our community for him to realize that this service is needed

here in Yellowknife? So that doesn't say change your plan. What that says is, what indicators does he need to see in Yellowknife to say we need the service here? So I want to know from him that answer. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are to the Minister of Health and Social Services, in regard to the Territorial Treatment Centre, which should be no surprise. What indicators, political, bureaucratic or even other, does this Minister need to see or hear that the services provided by the Territorial Treatment Centre need to continue here in Yellowknife? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for giving it the attention and sensitivity that it finally deserves and respects. It is not a laughing matter. I heard the Minister say he took due consideration. Why did he not take due consideration in evaluating the options of opening up a new facility in Hay River, rather than rip out the one that has been established and running well here in Yellowknife for a number of years? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister hasn't given us any reasons. He's just said we've made it; thank you. Tell us the facts and why you cherry picked the Territorial Treatment Centre over any other one. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have to say that I am glad the Minister finds this funny, because I don't.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What I see from this side of the House is boldness to move this over there. I see brash decisions. Frankly, I see nothing that has gone out to Yellowknife Members, or anyone on this side of the House, to say why we can't establish two or three of these things. If there is a need there, no one is questioning that. If there is a need there, establish one. Don't take it away from the community that has a need and fills it. Why doesn't the Minister think ahead long

term? Why don't we look at establishing a new facility and program service in Hay River?